Buoyant Force of sand and steel

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a sand core used in steel casting, given the buoyant force experienced by the core and the densities of sand and steel. The problem involves concepts of buoyancy, weight, and density in a physics context.

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  • The original poster attempts to rearrange equations related to buoyancy but expresses confusion about the steps to reach the solution. Some participants clarify the definition of buoyancy and suggest using the relationship between mass, volume, and density to isolate volume. Others confirm the method used and discuss the importance of precision in calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of formulas and suggesting improvements in calculation accuracy. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the final volume calculated, but there is acknowledgment of the method's validity.

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Participants note the importance of using accurate values for gravitational acceleration and maintaining precision in calculations. The original poster is working with a provided answer, which may influence their approach.

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I am just not too sure how to start this equation. The answer was given (i.e. Vc = 3698 cm^3), but I just need to know the steps on how to get to the answer.

A sand core used to form the internal surfaces of a steel casting experiences a buoyancy force of 225.63 N. What is the volume of the sand core in cm cubed.

Steel Density: 7.82 g/cm^3
Sand Core Density: 1.6 g/cm^3

Fb = Wm - Wc
Wc = (Mc)(Gravity) & Wm = (Mm)(Gravity)
D = M/V


I have tried rearranging the equation: 225.63 N = Wm - Wc --> Wm = 225.63 + Wc
Then substituting it into the equation: Wm = (Mm)(Gravity) --> 225.62 + Wc = (Mm)(Gravity)
I then isolate the... I pretty much get lost after that.

Thanks for the help
 
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First, the definition is that the buoyancy force equals mass of object (sand core) minus mass of displaced fluid (steel), that is, the negative of what you wrote.

Secondly, from that definition you can see that you also need to use the fact, that the mass of the displaced fluid is calculated from the volume of the object, that is with your terms you should use that Wc = Mcg = VDcg and Wm = VDmg. It should now be possible for you to relate the buoyancy force with the volume V, the difference in density Dm-Dc and the acceleration of gravity g and isolate for V.
 
Thanks

I substituted the equations for Wm and Wc into the Fb formula:
225.63 N = (V * 7.82 g/cm^3 * 9.8 m/s^2) - (V * 1.6 g/cm^3 * 9.8 m/s^2)
I came up with the answer 3.7 m^3. Can anyone confirm if this is right or whether I just got a lucky answer close to the real one? The answer I was given was 3698 cm^3.
 
Killswitch said:
Thanks

I substituted the equations for Wm and Wc into the Fb formula:
225.63 N = (V * 7.82 g/cm^3 * 9.8 m/s^2) - (V * 1.6 g/cm^3 * 9.8 m/s^2)
I came up with the answer 3.7 m^3. Can anyone confirm if this is right or whether I just got a lucky answer close to the real one? The answer I was given was 3698 cm^3.

Your method is okay. Keep a few more decimal places and use a more accurate value for g and you'll be good. g = 9.807 m/s2 is a good to three decimal places.
 
Looks good to me. Whoever calculated the answer of 3698 cm3 probably used a value of g around 9.81 m/s2 and rounded of the volume to nearest cm3.
 

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