Buzz aldrin posing, NASA artists?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences in photographic representations of Buzz Aldrin, particularly focusing on the contrast and exposure adjustments made to these images. Participants explore the implications of these changes, questioning the role of NASA artists in enhancing photographs and the transparency of such alterations to the public.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that there are at least two different versions of photos of Buzz Aldrin, one appearing grayer and the other with greater contrast.
  • One participant argues that the so-called "original" is actually a crop of another image, questioning the validity of labeling it as such.
  • There is a discussion about whether NASA is allowed to make exposure and cropping changes to enhance photographs, with some suggesting that such practices are common in visual media.
  • Another participant expresses concern about the dramatic changes made to photographs without informing viewers, especially in light of certain claims regarding the images.
  • One participant asserts that nearly all photographs in publications are manipulated for clarity, and that there is no obligation to inform the public of these changes.
  • There is a mention of "certain claims" about lighting issues in the photos, with skepticism expressed regarding their authenticity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of altering photographs and the necessity of transparency regarding such changes. There is no consensus on whether the alterations are acceptable or if they mislead the public.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the potential for manipulation in visual media and the implications of such practices, but do not resolve the debate over the specific changes made to Aldrin's photographs.

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I've noticed that there are (at least) two kind of photos of the famous Buzz Aldrin posing.

593px-Aldrin_Apollo_11_original.jpg


and

600px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg


Other one is more gray, and other one has greater contrast with darker boundaries. What's the story behind this difference?

I don't have a link now, but I recall I once read somewhere that the grayer one is the original. Am I correct to guess, that NASA has some artists whose purpose is to make photos more romantic? And some photos get secondary versions that are supposed to look better?
 
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I don't think either is the "original" note that the one you wish to call the "original" is a crop of the top image. It has more of the gold thing in the foreground.

Beyond that what is your point? Is NASA not permitted to make exposure and cropping changes to obtain the optimal photograph?

Edit: looks like that 2nd image was still loading when I typed up the above, now it appears to have the same content, just better exposure and formatting. Still not a mystery of any sort. Nor are the exposure adjustments extreme.
 
(I changed the pictures after the first responders response, so if something doesn't make sense, it could be part of the reason)

Integral said:
Beyond that what is your point? Is NASA not permitted to make exposure and cropping changes to obtain the optimal photograph?

By exposure change you mean the technique where center of the photo is made brighter and boundaries are left darker? I'm already suspecting that this is what has been done, but I'm still interested to know if somebody knows more details about the story of this photo.

For example, if some photo was released in a year 19xx and then some artist with name XYZ decided that it is too boring, and a second version was released in year 19yy, I'm interested. Nothing more, that's my point.

btw, I'm probably not the only one who thinks that it is not a good idea to make too dramatic changes to the photos, at least if the viewers are not informed well about this? We all know that now there are, err.., "certain claims" out there about the lightning issues in this photo.
 
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jostpuur said:
btw, I'm probably not the only one who thinks that it is not a good idea to make too dramatic changes to the photos, at least if the viewers are not informed well about this?
Just about every single photograph you see in any publication, anywhere, at any time has been manipulated in some way. In 99.999999999..% of cases this is not done to deceive, but to enhance the clarity of the message. There is no point, need, or requirement that the public should be informed of these changes.
So you may not think it is a good idea to make such changes, but you had best understand that practically all the visual media you see have been treated in this way.
jostpuur said:
We all know that now there are, err.., "certain claims" out there about the lightning issues in this photo.
Claims which have as much authenticity as finding Winston Churchill's History of the English Speaking People buried in Skarra Brae along with a copy of the Beano. When we allow our normal everyday actions to be dictated to by the lunacy of idiots we might as well all pack up civilisation and head back to the trees.
 
Ophiolite, I feel like I've been "channeled" ;)...
 
junglebeast said:
Ophiolite, I feel like I've been "channeled" ;)...
Many people can recognise idiocy when they see it. Only a few are foolish enough to invest time decrying it.:wink:
 

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