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Integral said: "I very carefully specified that the elevator is falling at a constant 10m/s NOT under free fall acceleration..."
Really? How could I have possibly thought we were both talking about an accelerating elevator? Oh...maybe because of these:
from your post: #17 "...given there are no safety mechanisms in place and that the elevator is in a free fall condition, the occupants would also be in a free fall condition..."
from your post: #19 "...I doubt that the elevator would have time to reach terminal velocity unless the shaft were nearly air tight..."
from your post #40 "If you could jump in a free fall (it is not clear to me how you would do this!)you will not change your final velocity."
from your post #55 "So applying a force to the floor and staying at rest wrt that same floor is nonsense"
and again from #55 "Now a good question is what is a fatal velocity, is a 20m drop fatal? Maybe not, but I would not want to try it. A bit of computation shows that v = sqrt(2gx) This gives a value of ~20m/s for a 20m fall..."
It's not until your post #75 (out of around 100 in this thread) that we finally get this: "edit: Forgot a bit. Now let us suppose that the elevator is falling at a constant velocity..." (This one's my favorite. When did you remember to go back and sneak that in?)
Your post #89 "So if the elevator, falling at say 10m/s..." (By the way, I think this is the quote you were referring to when you said, "I very carefully specified that the elevator is falling at a constant 10m/s NOT under free fall acceleration" So that's not really true is it?)
And now you respond to me in your post #95 with this: "Rember the elevator is falling at 10m/s...Most of what you say here is nonsense...Keep it simple, treat the problem as that of a falling body, because that is what it is...this is serious mumbo jumbo"
And you're a mentor?
Really? How could I have possibly thought we were both talking about an accelerating elevator? Oh...maybe because of these:
from your post: #17 "...given there are no safety mechanisms in place and that the elevator is in a free fall condition, the occupants would also be in a free fall condition..."
from your post: #19 "...I doubt that the elevator would have time to reach terminal velocity unless the shaft were nearly air tight..."
from your post #40 "If you could jump in a free fall (it is not clear to me how you would do this!)you will not change your final velocity."
from your post #55 "So applying a force to the floor and staying at rest wrt that same floor is nonsense"
and again from #55 "Now a good question is what is a fatal velocity, is a 20m drop fatal? Maybe not, but I would not want to try it. A bit of computation shows that v = sqrt(2gx) This gives a value of ~20m/s for a 20m fall..."
It's not until your post #75 (out of around 100 in this thread) that we finally get this: "edit: Forgot a bit. Now let us suppose that the elevator is falling at a constant velocity..." (This one's my favorite. When did you remember to go back and sneak that in?)
Your post #89 "So if the elevator, falling at say 10m/s..." (By the way, I think this is the quote you were referring to when you said, "I very carefully specified that the elevator is falling at a constant 10m/s NOT under free fall acceleration" So that's not really true is it?)
And now you respond to me in your post #95 with this: "Rember the elevator is falling at 10m/s...Most of what you say here is nonsense...Keep it simple, treat the problem as that of a falling body, because that is what it is...this is serious mumbo jumbo"
And you're a mentor?