Calculate Distance Traveled: Instantaneous vs. Average Velocity

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The discussion centers on the distinction between instantaneous velocity and average velocity in the context of calculating distance traveled by an object. It is established that while instantaneous velocity can be used to approximate distance when speed is constant, the correct approach to find distance involves integrating speed, not velocity. The key takeaway is that velocity is a vector quantity, while speed is its scalar magnitude, and this difference is crucial in calculations involving displacement and distance.

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Homework Statement
Velocity of a particle is ##\vec{v}=V_0\left[-\sin \omega t \hat{i}+\cos \omega t \hat{j}\right]##
##V_0, \omega## are constants.
Calc dist, displacement during time ##t = 0## to ##t = t_{0}##
Relevant Equations
##\vec{v}=V_0\left[-\sin \omega t \hat{i}+\cos \omega t \hat{j} \right]##
edit: I don't know why my latex isn't rendering, any help would be appreciated.

Edit 2: The question was due to a misunderstanding I had, I thought integrating instantaneous velocity would give me average velocity.

I have attached what I have tried so far. I had a doubt. Can you calculate the distance travelled by an object/particle using only the instantaneous velocity?

I mean, is the speed travelled by an object in time interval t = 0 to t = ##t_{0}##
S = ##V_{inst}*t_{0}##

My professor basically did this [Image with prof in it]

The other one is what I think the answer would be. I calculate the average velocity from instantaneous velocity by integrating ##V_{inst}## and then found out the average speed by finding the magnitude of the average velocity <vec{v}>

So, who is right? (I know I probably am wrong, but I want to know why)
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You are asked to find a distance. Integrating a velocity gives displacement.
To find the distance travelled you need to integrate the speed, a magnitude, not a vector.
It just happens that in this case the speed is constant, so using the instantaneous speed is ok.
 
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I am really stupid to have asked this question, thank you for your reply!
 
hey @haruspex why is the avg velocity same as instantaneous velocity here?
 
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hey @haruspex why is the avg velocity same as instantaneous velocity here?
No, the average velocity is not the same as the instantaneous velocity. Velocity is a vector, speed is its magnitude.
Look at what your prof did: found the speed by taking the magnitude of the velocity.
$$\left.\vec{v}=V_0[-\sin( \omega t )\hat{i}+\cos( \omega t )\hat{j} \right]$$
$$\vec{v}^2=V_0^2[(-\sin( \omega t ))^2+(\cos( \omega t ))^2]=V_0^2$$
So the speed is constant, and the average speed is the same as the instantaneous speed. The velocity is changing, though, because the direction keeps changing. Over time ##\frac{2\pi}{\omega}##, the average velocity is zero.
 
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Slimy0233 said:
Homework Statement: Velocity of a particle is ##\left.\vec{v}=V_0[-\sin \omega t \hat{i}+\cos \omega t \hat{j}\right]## ##V_0, \omega## are constants Calc dist, displacement during time t = 0 to t = ##t_{0}##
Relevant Equations: $$\left.\vec{v}=V_0[-\sin \omega t \hat{i}+\cos \omega t \hat{j} \right]$$

I mean, is the speed travelled by an object in time interval t = 0 to t = t0
S = Vinst∗t0
Alarm. Speed has the same units as velocity.
 
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