Calculate Max Speed of Truck on Unbanked Curve Without Eggs Sliding

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum speed of a truck negotiating an unbanked curve without causing a crate of eggs to slide. The coefficient of static friction between the crate and the truck is 0.600, and the radius of the curve is 35.0 meters. The correct approach involves using the formula for centripetal acceleration, where the maximum static friction force provides the necessary centripetal force. The final calculated speed is 14.3 m/s, derived from the equation v = sqrt(r * μ * g), where g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²).

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  • #31
Paymemoney said:
wouldn't that be mg?
Sure. That's all you need.
 
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  • #32
but how do i know the mass??
 
  • #33
You don't need it. Use call the mass "m" and you'll see it cancels out.
 
  • #34
so if i use the F= N - mg

mg = N - mg

9.8 = N -9.8

N= 19.6N
 
  • #35
Paymemoney said:
but how do i know the mass??
You don't and it doesn't matter. Just use N = mg.

Paymemoney said:
so if i use the F= N - mg

mg = N - mg

9.8 = N -9.8

N= 19.6N
No. The vertical forces add to zero, so 0 = N - mg, thus N = mg.

Now go back to analyzing the friction force. Now that you have an expression for N, how would you express the maximum static friction? Plug that into Newton's 2nd law.
 
  • #36
Paymemoney said:
so if i use the F= N - mg

mg = N - mg

9.8 = N -9.8

N= 19.6N

however when i done it this way and i found the velocity to be the right answer as the book.

To answer your question would it be fsmax = \mu * mg
 
  • #37
Paymemoney said:
however when i done it this way and i found the velocity to be the right answer as the book.
You might get lucky now and then, but that method makes no sense. Learn how to do it right, then you're good to go no matter what.

To answer your question would it be fsmax = \mu * mg
OK. That's the net force providing the centripetal acceleration. Use Newton's 2nd law to find the velocity.
 
  • #38
do i use the equation F=\frac{mv^2}{r}??
 
  • #39
Paymemoney said:
do i use the equation F=\frac{mv^2}{r}??
Yes, where F is the friction force (in this case).
 
  • #40
ok i understand so:
\mu * N = \frac{mv^2}{r}

r(\mu * mg) = mv^2

cancel m's


r * \mu * g = v^2

then sub in values to get final answer of 14.3m/s
 
  • #41
Exactly.
 

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