Calculate R3 in Transistor Circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on calculating the resistance R3 in a transistor circuit, specifically considering the roles of Q2 and Q4. Participants explore various approaches to determine R3, including its relationship to emitter resistance and its function in the circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that R3 is primarily the emitter resistance, typically set to regulate Hfe, proposing a calculation of R3 as 1000 ohms based on a 1V drop at 1mA current.
  • Another participant argues that R2 should equal R3 to ensure equal and opposite drive into the push-pull pair Q3 and Q4, questioning the calculations for R3.
  • A later reply reiterates the initial calculation for R3 and emphasizes the need to specify which transistor's emitter is being referred to in the discussion.
  • Another participant presents a different perspective, stating that R3 functions more as a pull-down resistor and suggests that Hfe is not a significant factor in this circuit type.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculation and role of R3, with no consensus reached on the correct approach or significance of Hfe in this context.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of emitter roles for Q2, Q3, and Q4, as well as the implications of Hfe in the circuit's operation.

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Hello, guys! I just wanted to make sure I do this right.

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Forget about the rest of the circuit and focus only on Q2 and Q4. How to calculate R3?

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The way I do it:
R3 is basicaly the emitter resistance which purpose is to regulate Hfe. So in most cases the emitter is held at 1V at current of 1mA. We find R3 from the formula R3=1V/1mA = 1000ohms. When Q4 is connected to the emitter of Q2, the emitter will fall to 0,6V and the current through R3 will reduce, leaving room for the base current of Q4 I3=0,6/1000= 0,0006A=0,6A. I3 reduced from 0,001A to 0,0006A. Now we can find what the base current of Q 4 will be from IB=IE-I3=1mA-0,6mA=0,4mA.
 
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I think R2 should equal R3 so that there is equal and opposite drive into the push-pull pair Q3 and Q4.
 
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tech99 said:
I think R2 should equal R3 so that there is equal and opposite drive into the push-pull pair Q3 and Q4.
But the calculations for R3 are done in such a way like I did, isn't that right?
 
Harrison G said:
R3 is basicaly the emitter resistance which purpose is to regulate Hfe. So in most cases the emitter is held at 1V at current of 1mA. We find R3 from the formula R3=1V/1mA = 1000ohms. When Q4 is connected to the emitter of Q2, the emitter will fall to 0,6V and the current through R3 will reduce, leaving room for the base current of Q4 I3=0,6/1000= 0,0006A=0,6A. I3 reduced from 0,001A to 0,0006A. Now we can find what the base current of Q 4 will be from IB=IE-I3=1mA-0,6mA=0,4mA.
In order to follow your explanation, I think we need each mention of emitter to be identified as of Q2, Q3 or Q4.
 
R3 is more a pull-down resistor. In this type of a circuit we do not care about Hfe much.
If you have time try watch this lecture
 

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