Calculate SO42- Concentration in Mixture of Na2SO4 & Al2(SO4)3

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the concentration of sulfate ions (SO42-) in a final solution created by mixing sodium sulfate (Na2SO4) and aluminum sulfate (Al2(SO4)3). The context is primarily homework-related, focusing on the stoichiometry of the compounds involved.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for help in calculating the concentration of SO42- ions after mixing the two solutions.
  • Another participant inquires about the number of moles of Na2SO4 and the sulfate ions produced per mole of the salt.
  • A participant provides calculated moles of Na2SO4 and Al2(SO4)3 but seeks guidance on determining the moles of sulfate ions.
  • Questions are raised about the number of aluminum ions (Al3+) and sulfate ions (SO42-) per molecule of Al2(SO4)3.
  • One participant attempts to calculate the moles of aluminum but expresses uncertainty about their approach.
  • A later reply suggests that molar masses are unnecessary for the calculations, using an analogy about exhausts in cars to explain the concept of moles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the calculations or the methodology for determining the concentration of sulfate ions. Multiple viewpoints and approaches are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the stoichiometry of the compounds and the calculations of moles, as well as differing opinions on the necessity of using molar masses in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


hey i really can't do this question, can anyone help. A mixture was made from solutions of sodium sulfate and aluminium sulfate.
311 mL of 0.500 M Na2SO4 solution and 190 mL of 0.300 M Al2(SO4)3 solution were mixed together. Calculate the concentration of SO42- ions in the final solution?


anyhelp would be appreciated. thanks



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How many moles of Na2SO4 ? How many moles of SO4 does each mole of the salt have?

How many moles of Al2(SO4)3 ? How many moles of Sulfate does each mole of this salt have?
 
moles of Naso4=0.1555
moles of Al(So4)3=0.057

How do i work out the number of moles of So4 ions?
 
Al2(SO4)3 - how many Al3+ per molecule? How many SO42- per molecule?

Al2(SO4)3 - how many moles Al3+ per mole of salt?
 
2 Al /molecule 3 SO4molecule.
im not sure if this is right--mole of al=26.98/(26.98x2)+(3x32.02)+(12x16)=0.0788mol?
 
No, no need for molar masses.

Mole is just an ovegrown dozen.

If there is one exhaust in car, how many exhausts in dozen cars?

If there is one exhaust in car, how many exhausts in mole of cars?
 

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