Calculate Speed of Red Ball Falling From 26m

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a red ball falling from a height of 26 meters with an initial speed of 1.3 m/s and a constant gravitational acceleration of 9.81 m/s². The incorrect calculation of time to impact was identified, with the participant initially arriving at 5.03 seconds instead of the correct 2.17 seconds. The error stemmed from an improper application of the quadratic formula, leading to confusion in solving for the roots. The correct approach involves using the standard quadratic equation roots formula to accurately determine the time of impact.

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Homework Statement


A red ball is thrown down with an initial speed of 1.3 m/s from a height of 26 meters above the ground. The force of gravity due to the Earth results in the balls each having a constant downward acceleration of 9.81 m/s2.

What is the speed of the red ball right before it hits the ground?

Homework Equations


x = 26 - 1.3t - 4.905t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I get how to do this problem, but I wasn't able to get the correct answer the first time when I did it completely mathematically. Can someone check where I'm going wrong in this work?

We need to find the time that the ball hits the ground --> set x = 0
0 = 26 - 1.3t - 4.905t^2
-26 = -1.3t - 4.905t^2
-26 = (-1.3 - 4.905t)*t
t = 0,
-4.905t = -24.7
t = 5.03 seconds

I don't know where I'm going wrong to get that t = 5.03 seconds, when the answer is 2.17 seconds (by using a calculator and plotting the zeroes). Is it wrong to solve the quadratic like this when solving for the roots?
 
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Thewindyfan said:

Homework Statement


A red ball is thrown down with an initial speed of 1.3 m/s from a height of 26 meters above the ground. The force of gravity due to the Earth results in the balls each having a constant downward acceleration of 9.81 m/s2.

What is the speed of the red ball right before it hits the ground?

Homework Equations


x = 26 - 1.3t - 4.905t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I get how to do this problem, but I wasn't able to get the correct answer the first time when I did it completely mathematically. Can someone check where I'm going wrong in this work?

We need to find the time that the ball hits the ground --> set x = 0
0 = 26 - 1.3t - 4.905t^2
-26 = -1.3t - 4.905t^2
-26 = (-1.3 - 4.905t)*t
t = 0,
-4.905t = -24.7
t = 5.03 seconds

I don't know where I'm going wrong to get that t = 5.03 seconds, when the answer is 2.17 seconds (by using a calculator and plotting the zeroes). Is it wrong to solve the quadratic like this when solving for the roots?

If ##-26 = t(-1.3-4.905 t)## you cannot have ##t = 0##. If you set ##t = 0## you get right-hand-side = 0 (because 0 times anything = 0), but left-hand-side = -26, and 26 ≠ 0.
So, yes, it is very wrong indeed to solve quadratic equations that way!

Why don't you just use the familiar quadratic equation roots formula?
 
Ray Vickson said:
If ##-26 = t(-1.3-4.905 t)## you cannot have ##t = 0##. If you set ##t = 0## you get right-hand-side = 0 (because 0 times anything = 0), but left-hand-side = -26, and 26 ≠ 0.
So, yes, it is very wrong indeed to solve quadratic equations that way!

Why don't you just use the familiar quadratic equation roots formula?
Yeah I guess I just confused that approach with solving the time for when x = some number. Thanks for pointing that out!
 

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