Calculate the electric potential

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential in a spherical charge distribution scenario, specifically involving a sphere with an inner radius and an outer radius, containing a charge and a point charge within a cavity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the electric potential in different regions of the sphere and questions the calculations for potential at specific distances. Participants explore the implications of electric fields being zero in certain regions and the concept of constant potential within a conductor.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some guidance provided regarding the treatment of electric potential and the choice of reference points for zero potential. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the calculations and the concept of potential being constant in certain regions.

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There is a discussion about the assumptions regarding the electric field within the conductor and the implications of choosing a reference point for zero potential. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the calculations and the nature of potential in the given setup.

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Homework Statement



its not a statement but i was wondering: I'm studying the electric potential and when we have a sphere with inner radious r1 and outer radious r2 that has a charge let's say +Q with a cavity and there is a point charge q inside this cavity so the inner surface will have -q and the outer will have Q+q


Homework Equations


if i want to calculate the electric potential in the cavity and in the sphere between r2 and r1 and outside and on r1 and r2?



The Attempt at a Solution


i think that inside there will be an electric field so V=Kq/r where r is the distance from q
and between r1 and r2 E=0 so the difference must be zero and since there is no charges moving here we will say that through r2>r>r1 the same but how do i calculate it
 
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Nickclark said:
i think that inside there will be an electric field so V=Kq/r where r is the distance from q
and between r1 and r2 E=0 so the difference must be zero and since there is no charges moving here we will say that through r2>r>r1 the same but how do i calculate it

As you say, inside a conductor E is zero, so the electric potential is constant, and has the value at r1 that you get from the r ≤ r1 equation. :wink:
 


Thanks, but what is its value?
is it V=Kq\r1 through r1<r<r2 or is it V=kq/r2
because if i considered the potential being the integral from a to b for E.dl where b is at infinity so Vb wil be zero then i will get Va:
a) at distance r1 it will be Kq/r1
b) at distance r2 it will be k(q+Q)/r2
but that is wrong because the potential must be constant!
which is why I'm confused
 
ah, good point …

we can add an arbitrary constant to the potential everywhere, so we have to make an arbitrary choice where the zero potential is …

your choice of zero potential at infinity is a lot more sensible than mine! :redface:

so yes, do r > r2 first, then keep the potential constant down to r1, then lower it in step with the r < r1 formula :smile:
 


Oh OK! Got it, Thanks
 

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