Calculate the equilibrium constant Kc for the reaction at this temperature

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equilibrium constant Kc for the reaction H2 + I2 -> 2HI, given initial masses of reactants and the equilibrium mass of the product. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculations using an ICE chart to determine molarity and subsequently Kc, arriving at a value of 662, which differs from the book's answer of 764.
  • Another participant questions the use of the ICE table, suggesting that the problem could be approached through simple stoichiometry instead.
  • A further reply emphasizes that using equilibrium mass can help determine how much of the initial reactants reacted, which is similar to using an ICE table.
  • Some participants express confusion about the calculations and request clarification on how to solve for x, indicating a lack of understanding of the initial steps taken.
  • One participant acknowledges they are close to the correct answer but suspects their discrepancy may be due to significant figures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to solve the problem, with some advocating for the ICE table approach while others prefer straightforward stoichiometry. There is ongoing confusion and requests for clarification on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the use of the ICE table and the calculation of x, indicating that assumptions about initial concentrations and the relationship between reactants and products may not be fully resolved.

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Homework Statement



H2 + I2 -> 2HI

A reaction mixture in a 3.67 L flask at a certain temperature initially contains 0.763 g H2 and 96.9 g I2. At equilibrium, the flask contains 90.4 g HI.

Calculate the equilibrium constant Kc for the reaction at this temperature.

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I used the ICE chart to try and solve this.

First, I divided the grams of each substance by the molar mass of the compound, and divide it by 3.67 L to get molarity.

.763g H2 / 2 g / 3.67 = .104 M
96.9g I2 / (126.9x2) /3.67 = .104 M
90.4 HI / (126.9 + 1) / 3.67 = .193 M

In my ICE chart, I'm solving for x because .193 M is the concentration at equilibrium. Since [HI] is 0 initially, I found x to be .0965. I subtracted this number from the concentration of H2 and I2 to get its concentration at equilibrium.

Then I used the rate law k = [product]^2/[reactants]

(.193^2)/(.0075^2)

and my answer comes out to be 662

(CORRECT ANSWER IN BOOK IS 764)
 
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No idea how you used ICE table here. This is a simple stoichiometry.
 


Borek said:
No idea how you used ICE table here. This is a simple stoichiometry.

How would you use stoich? I'm given 2 initial mass and 1 equalibrium mass..
 


Use equilibrium mass to calculate how much of the initial reacted - that will let you calculate how much was left unreacted.

This is not much different from using ICE table, after all, ICE table is just a simple of way of tracing stoichiometry. But, ICE table is used to construct reaction quotient using unknown concentrations expressed in terms of x, and I don't see how you can solve for x if you don't know Kc value. Unless you used ICE table but solved just for stoichiometry in some twisted way.

Shwo details of your work.
 
I still don't know how to do this problem, so I would be really happy is someone showed the work for this problem.

I solved for x by assuming that initial concentration of HI is 0 because it has not been formed yet. The change would be .193 M and since there's 2 moles, x is actually .0965.
 
ahhppull said:
I solved for x

I asked you to show your work. I have no idea what x is nor how you solved for it, so I can't help you.

And no, nobody will show you how to solve the question. We can help you solve it on your own.
 
Thanks...I got it but I'm just a bit off. Maybe due to my sig figs.
 

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