Calculate the force on a particle from magnetic field of infinite wire

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The problem involves determining the expression for the magnetic force on a charged particle moving near an infinitely long wire carrying a current. The context includes concepts from electromagnetism, specifically the interaction between magnetic fields and charged particles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to combine equations related to magnetic fields and forces to derive a formula for the force on the particle. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the uniformity of the magnetic field and its implications on the force calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes validation of the original poster's equation for force at a specific radius and angle, while also addressing the nuances of notation in physics and engineering. There is no explicit consensus, but participants are engaging constructively with the content.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential confusion regarding the notation of current and the imaginary unit, which may affect clarity in communication. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their derived equation, indicating a need for further verification of their work.

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Homework Statement


Problem: Determine an expression for the magnitude of the magnetic force on a charged particle moving near an infinitely long wire, carrying a current i.
  • Particle with charge q
  • Magnitude of the particles velocity = |v|
  • Magnetic field strength = B
  • Current = i

Homework Equations


B can be calculated with:
[itex]B=\frac{μ_{0}i}{2\pi{r}}[/itex]

Magnitude of force can be calculated with:
[itex]F=q*v*b*sin(θ)[/itex] (Cross product of the particles velocity vector and the magnetic field vector)

The Attempt at a Solution


I've combined these equations to come up with a single equation for the magnitude of the force on the particle:

[itex]F=\frac{q*v*μ_{0}*i*sin(θ)}{2\pi{r}}[/itex]

However this final equation is the part I am not confident on. I've proceeded on the basis the the magnetic field around an infinite wire carrying current is non-uniform; that is the direction of the magnetic field is not constant, but would appreciate my working being checked!

Thanks in advance!
 
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The magnetic field is not constant, this will change sin(θ) and r in a trajectory. But the equation for the force at a specific radius with a specific angle is correct.
Current is written with a capital I. "i" is usually the imaginary unit.
 


Looks good.

BTW i = √(-1) is only for physicists.

Real men (engineers) use j = √(-1) and i is very regularly used to denote current :smile:
 


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rude man said:
BTW i = √(-1) is only for physicists.
And mathematics as well.
 


mfb said:
And mathematics as well.

Yeah, but not real men (and women)! :smile:
 
Thanks both! Just needed that extra pair of eyes to look at it :smile:
 

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