Calculate the instantaneous velocity

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The problem involves a workman dropping a wrench from a high-rise building, with observations made by two individuals at different heights. The task is to calculate the instantaneous velocity of the wrench when it passes the second observer, the total distance fallen, and the time of the drop.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between average and instantaneous velocity, questioning the use of kinematic equations given the available measurements. There is an exploration of how to calculate initial and final velocities based on the known distance and time interval.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using kinematic equations to find the initial and final velocities. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and differences between average and instantaneous velocity, with no explicit consensus reached on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding acceleration in the context of the problem, as well as the potential confusion between average and instantaneous velocity. There is also mention of the constraints of the information provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


A workman drops a wrench over the side of a high-rise building. Someone looking out their window sees the wrench appear at 11:00 a.m. Another person in an office 25.0 m below the first observer sees the wrench appear exactly 1.00 second after 11:00 AM.

Calculate the instantaneous velocity of the wrench when it passes the second observer, calculate the total distance the wrench has fallen from the point when it passes the second observer, and calculate the time when the wrench was dropped.


Homework Equations


Instantaneous velocity = change in velocity / change in time
v = v initial + acceleration X time
x - x initial = v initial X t + 1/2 acceleration X time squared


The Attempt at a Solution


It seemed to me that the instantaneous velocity would be 25 m/s squared, but since that answer is too simple, I'm pretty sure it's wrong. I looked through the kinematic formulas but couldn't find one that I had enough information for. For instance, how do I calculate this using only on measurement (the 1.00 second it took to go 25 m?). Please help! :frown:
 
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heartofaragorn said:
Instantaneous velocity = change in velocity / change in time

Check this statement.
What are the units of velocity?
 
heartofaragorn said:

Homework Statement


A workman drops a wrench over the side of a high-rise building. Someone looking out their window sees the wrench appear at 11:00 a.m. Another person in an office 25.0 m below the first observer sees the wrench appear exactly 1.00 second after 11:00 AM.

Calculate the instantaneous velocity of the wrench when it passes the second observer, calculate the total distance the wrench has fallen from the point when it passes the second observer, and calculate the time when the wrench was dropped.
You know the acceleration, right? You know the distance traveled and the time interval. You can find both the initial velocity (when it passes the first window) and the final velocity. See below

Homework Equations


Instantaneous velocity = change in velocity / change in time
This is incorrect. This equation gives the average acceleration, not the instantaneous velocity
v = v initial + acceleration X time
x - x initial = v initial X t + 1/2 acceleration X time squared
That's it. Use the second equation to find the initial velocity. Then use the first equation to find the final velocity.
(here, the initial point corresponds to the wrench passing the first window and the final point is when the wrench passes the second window.

Once you have that information, use again the equations but now the initial point being when the wrench is dropped (with an initial velocity of zero) and the final point being when it passes the first window (say). Then the unknowns will be the time and the distance, which you can solve for using the same two equations
 
heartofaragorn said:
It seemed to me that the instantaneous velocity would be 25 m/s squared, but since that answer is too simple, I'm pretty sure it's wrong.
The average velocity would be 25 m/s (not squared!) during that 1 second interval. But that's not the instantaneous velocity.

How must the instantaneous velocities at the beginning and end of that interval differ? Hint: What's the acceleration?
 
Okay, thank you for the help, everyone! That definitely helped me out, so much so, that I'm about to post another problem! :rolleyes:
 
You give the formula to find the average velocity.
[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{s(a+h)+s(a)}{h}[/tex] where t=a is instantaneous velocity^^
 
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