Calculate Velocity to Reach Target: Sx=15000m, Sy=400m

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The problem involves calculating the initial velocity of a shell fired at an elevation of 60 degrees to reach a target located at Sx=15000m and Sy=400m. The context is projectile motion, specifically focusing on the components of velocity and the equations of motion.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for projectile motion, with attempts to express the vertical and horizontal components of motion. There are questions about the correctness of the equations used and the implications of negative values encountered in calculations.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the equations, suggesting corrections and clarifications regarding the components of velocity and the proper use of trigonometric functions. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note potential issues with the application of trigonometric functions and the need for careful consideration of the time variable in the equations. There is also mention of a missing component in the equations that could affect the calculations.

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[SOLVED] Calculating Velocity

A shell is fired at an elevation of 60degrees from horizontal, it needs to reach a target
Sx=15000m, Sy = 400m. What is the initial velocity of the shell?


So far I have done this...
Ax=0 Ay=-g
Vx=V cos 60 Vy=-gt+V sin 30
Sx=V cos 60 t Sy=((-gt^2)/2)+sin 30


I've tried to work from here (using Sx to find t=15000/Vcos60, then substitute that into Sy formula) but I've been getting a negative number which can't be right.
Could someone show me the working or give me any help at all?
 
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Your equations are correct (except for a missing V in Sy=.

Your methodology should work as-well, you must be getting a negative from taking the wrong square root, or something about the trig functions.
 
Thanks Izkelley
So I've done this...
400= (-9.8/2)(15000/Vcos60)+Vsin30

Is that the correct?
 
The initial vertical velocity component is not Vsin30.

Sy=1/2at^2+ut. So the second term on the right hand side of your equation should be multiplied by t and you need to square t in the first term.
 
damn yeah, sorry.
the sin30's should be sin60 also (same angle opposite trig function) or cos30's (same trig function opposite angle --- sin30 = cos60, sin60=cos30 ).
and not only is Sy missing a V, its missing a t i.e.
Sy=((-gt^2)/2)+V*t*cos30
 

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