Calculating Acceleration: Solving SUVAT and a Constant Homework Statement

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the motion of a vehicle that accelerates from rest and then decelerates to a stop, with a focus on the relationship between the distances traveled during acceleration and deceleration, denoted as s1 and s2, respectively. The problem seeks to find the acceleration (a) given the ratio s2/s1 = K.

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  • Participants explore the implications of having the same acceleration for both the acceleration and deceleration phases, questioning whether this leads to the conclusion that s1 must equal s2. Some suggest that the problem may require expressing K in terms of the acceleration.

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There is an ongoing examination of the problem's setup, with participants raising questions about the assumptions made regarding the magnitudes of acceleration and deceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of SUVAT equations to establish relationships between the variables involved.

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Participants note potential ambiguities in the problem statement, particularly regarding the equality of times for acceleration and deceleration, and the need for clarity in the question as posed.

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Homework Statement


A vehicle Accelerates from rest (a) and travels a certain distance s1 It then deccelerates (a) at a constant rate and travels a second distance s2 until it stops. If s2/s1 = K then what is the accleration (a) of the vehicle.

Homework Equations


v=u+at
s=ut+1/2at^2
s=vt-1/2at^2
v^2=u^2 + 2as
s=(u+v)t/2

The Attempt at a Solution


I used v^2=u^2 + 2as to describe the two parts of the journey but I ended up at a completely incorrect answer.
 
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thejosh said:
A vehicle Accelerates from rest (a) and travels a certain distance s1 It then deccelerates (a) at a constant rate and travels a second distance s2 until it stops. If s2/s1 = K then what is the acceleration (a) of the vehicle.

There is a problem her, You have a for both the accelaration and the deceleration, but if they are the same, you would need s1=s2, and the acceleration is can still be anything. Are you sure this is correct?
 
Sorry, you are actually supposed to make an expression for K using a as the link between the two parts of the journey.:oldlaugh:
 
thejosh said:
Sorry, you are actually supposed to make an expression for K using a as the link between the two parts of the journey.:oldlaugh:

There still seems to be missing something. Are the times of the acceleration and deceleration equal?
 
thejosh said:
A vehicle Accelerates from rest (a) and travels a certain distance s1 It then deccelerates (a) at a constant rate and travels a second distance s2 until it stops. If s2/s1 = K then what is the acceleration (a) of the vehicle.
The question does not make sense as it stands. I suggest that there are two different magnitudes of acceleration, and you are supposed to find one of them in terms of K and the other acceleration.
 
You are supposed to find an expression by describing the two parts of the journey using suvat equations in terms of K the constant, the link IS a which is why they are the same, I tried using the suvat equation v^2=u^2+2as as there is no time in the equation it is just the linking and final conclusions that I struggled with.
PLEASE HELP
 
You are supposed to find an expression by describing the two parts of the journey using suvat equations in terms of K the constant, the link IS a which is why they are the same, I tried using the suvat equation v^2=u^2+2as as there is no time in the equation it is just the linking and final conclusions that I struggled with.
PLEASE HELP
 
thejosh said:
You are supposed to find an expression by describing the two parts of the journey using suvat equations in terms of K the constant, the link IS a which is why they are the same
As others have pointed out, the magnitudes of the acceleration and deceleration cannot be the same except for the trivial case where s1 = s2.

So did you mean to write "a" for both accelerations?
 
thejosh said:
You are supposed to find an expression by describing the two parts of the journey using suvat equations in terms of K the constant, the link IS a which is why they are the same, I tried using the suvat equation v^2=u^2+2as as there is no time in the equation it is just the linking and final conclusions that I struggled with.
PLEASE HELP
Suppose, for example, that K=1. If it accelerates at a for distance s1=s it reaches speed v where v2=2as. If it now decelerates at a for s2=s it will come to a stop. Thus, we have met the conditions, yet a is anything at all.
Are you quite sure you have written out the question exactly as given to you, down to the last dot and comma?
 
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Thanks guys I solved it and as haruspex clearly pointed out I did not read the question carefully neither did I type it out correctly I am seriously sorry but I appreciate the help all the same, I just ran out of wifi for a while.
 

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