Suvat equations - car braking hard to avoid a collision

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The problem involves a car (A) that is speeding and must brake to avoid a collision with another vehicle (B) crossing the road. The scenario includes specific parameters such as the car's speed, the distance to the other vehicle, the driver's reaction time, and the maximum deceleration. Participants are exploring the application of SUVAT equations to analyze the situation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the distance traveled by car A during the driver's reaction time and question the calculations related to this distance. There is also exploration of the car's velocity after braking and the total time elapsed until car A reaches vehicle B. The minimum velocity required for vehicle B to avoid a collision is also under consideration, with participants questioning the necessary distance for vehicle B to completely cross the road.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the calculations for each part of the problem. Some participants have provided guidance on the distances involved and the implications of the car's length in relation to the road width. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final calculations, particularly for part d.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are attempting to clarify assumptions regarding the distances involved, particularly the total distance vehicle B must travel to completely cross the road.

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Suvat equations -- car braking hard to avoid a collision

Homework Statement



A car (A) is speeding along a rural road, of width 4m with a speed of 25m/s when the driver sees another vehicle (B) of length 3.5m just starting to cross the road at a point 40m ahead. The drivers reaction time is 0.80s, and the maximum deceleration with the brakes fully applied is 5.5m/s/s, If the car can be assumed to decelerate uniformly without swerving etc., calculate:

a) The distance traveled by the car during the drivers reaction time
b) The car's (A) velocity when it reaches the position of the other vehicle (B)
c) Total time which has elapsed from first sighting until car A reaches vehicle B
d) The minimum constant velocity of vehicle B so that the car A does not collide with it

Homework Equations



SUVAT Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



a)
s=
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=0.80

s=ut+0.5(at2)
s=18.24m

b)
s=40m
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v2=u2+2as
v2=252+2(-5.5)(40)
v=13.60m/s

c)
s=40m
u=25m/s
v=13.60m/s
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v=u+at
13.60=25-5.5t
t=(13.60-25)/-5.5=2.07s

d) Rather unsure on this one:
s= 3.5m
u=
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=2.07s

I never calculated anything for d) because I am really unsure.

Any help is appreciated!
 
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Apothem said:
a)
s=
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=0.80

s=ut+0.5(at2)
s=18.24m

Reaction time is the time taken by the driver to start applying brakes on seeing the obstacle(car B in this case) .During the reaction time the car A is traveling at 25m/s with no deceleration.

Apothem said:
b)
s=40m
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v2=u2+2as
v2=252+2(-5.5)(40)
v=13.60m/s

The item in red should be 20m
 
Last edited:
Tanya Sharma said:
During the reaction time the car A is traveling at 25m/s with no deceleration.

Ok therefore:

a)
s=
u=25m/s
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=0.80

s=ut+0.5(at2)
s=25(0.80)+0
s=20m

Subsequently for b)

b)
s=40-20=20m
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v2=u2+2as
v2=252+2(-5.5)(20)
v=20.1m/s

And for c)
c)
s=20m
u=25m/s
v=20.1m/s
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v=u+at
20.1-25/-5.5=t=0.89s
So total t=0.89+0.80=1.69s

Is this right?
 
Apothem said:
Ok therefore:

a)
s=
u=25m/s
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=0.80

s=ut+0.5(at2)
s=25(0.80)+0
s=20m

Subsequently for b)

b)
s=40-20=20m
u=25m/s
v=
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v2=u2+2as
v2=252+2(-5.5)(20)
v=20.1m/s

And for c)
c)
s=20m
u=25m/s
v=20.1m/s
a=-5.5m/s/s
t=

v=u+at
20.1-25/-5.5=t=0.89s
So total t=0.89+0.80=1.69s

Is this right?

Yes...that's right
 
Tanya Sharma said:
Yes...that's right

Now comes part d)

My thinking is:
s=3.5m
u=
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=1.69s

Then work out u?
 
Apothem said:
Now comes part d)

My thinking is:
s=3.5m
u=
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=1.69s

Then work out u?

No...

How much distance car B needs to travel to completely cross the road ?
 
Tanya Sharma said:
No...

How much distance car B needs to travel to completely cross the road ?

4 metres
 
Apothem said:
4 metres
Nope.The car has to COMPLETELY cross the road.The width of the road is 4m.Length of the car is 3.5m
Think about it.
 
adjacent said:
Nope.The car has to COMPLETELY cross the road.The width of the road is 4m.Length of the car is 3.5m
Think about it.

7.5 metres?
 
  • #10
Apothem said:
4 metres

Car is not a particle .It has a length .The distance to be covered is the width of the road + length of the car .
 
  • #11
Apothem said:
7.5 metres?

Yes...
 
  • #12
So am I right to say:
d)
s=7.5m
u=
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=1.69s

s=ut+0.5(at^2)
50=1.69u
u=50/1.69=29.6m/s
 
  • #13
Apothem said:
So am I right to say:
d)
s=7.5m
u=
v=
a=0m/s/s
t=1.69s

s=ut+0.5(at^2)
50=1.69u
u=50/1.69=29.6m/s

:rolleyes: s should be 7.5 not 50 .
 
  • #14
Tanya Sharma said:
:rolleyes: s should be 7.5 not 50 .

Sorry I was looking at my maths homework just before hand, and 50 was the answer to a question, wasn't paying attention :shy:
 

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