Calculating Airplane Speed Using Time Dilation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of an airplane using concepts from time dilation in the context of special relativity. The original poster presents a scenario where an airplane travels a distance of 3000 km, comparing the flight times measured by the pilot and a stationary observer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the airplane's speed from the relationship between the time intervals measured by the pilot and the observer, questioning the complexity of the resulting equations. Other participants inquire about the complete problem statement and suggest alternative methods to express the time intervals in terms of the airplane's speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the time intervals, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a specific time difference of 4 ns between the two measurements, and the original poster expresses frustration over the complexity of the equations involved. The original poster also notes the expected answer but struggles to derive it.

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An airplane travels at a constant speed v for a distance of 3000km as measured by a stationary observer. The pilot measures the flight time to be [itex]\Delta t[/itex] and the stationary observer measures the flight time to be [itex]\Delta t'[/itex]. (Then I solved the first part of it, showing that [itex]\Delta t' > \Delta t[/itex].)

b. If [itex]\left|\Delta t-\Delta t' \right|[/itex]=4ns, determine the speed of the airplane.

Now, I have tried every combination of plugging equations into one another that I could think of, and I always end up with some horrifically complicated equation in which it's impossible to solve for v. Suggestions on how to proceed from [itex]\gamma\Delta t -\Delta t=4ns[/itex]

PS- The answer is 240m/s, but I cannot see at all how to get there.
 
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Can you state the whole problem as it is given, including part (a)? To check your work and help you out, we need to have all the information that you have.
 
a. Which time interval is longer? (As I said, I already showed that the t'>t)
 
So you know Δt in terms of γ. Is there another way you can calculate Δt by first finding an expression for Δt' in terms of v and 3000 km?
 
Well, I can use [itex]\Delta t=\frac{\Delta x}{v}[/itex] to say that [itex]\Delta t'=\gamma \frac{3,000,000}{v}[/itex], but then that leads to an equation with a v2 and a v term.
 
After 2 pages of fruitless attempts, I've decided to give up and hope for partial credit.
 

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