Calculating Altitude in Geostationary Orbit

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The problem involves calculating the altitude of a satellite in a geostationary orbit, given its mass and the radius of the Earth. The context is rooted in gravitational forces and orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, referencing Kepler's laws and the need to find the orbital radius. Questions arise regarding the correct application of equations and the interpretation of variables.

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Participants are actively exploring different methods to find the orbital radius and altitude. Some have offered insights into using gravitational force equations and Kepler's third law, while others express confusion about the setup and calculations involved.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the constants needed for calculations, such as the gravitational constant and the mass of the Earth. Additionally, participants are clarifying the distinction between the radius of the orbit and the altitude above the Earth's surface.

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Homework Statement



A 10,000 kg satellite is rbiting the Earth in a geostationary orbit. The height of the satellite above the surface of the Earth is ?


Homework Equations



V = \omega r

Newtons gravitational force equation

Keplers third law equation

The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't understand how to set this problem up. Here is what I am thinking. We know the radius of the Earth ( 6.37 x 10 ^6 m) so all we need to find is how much above is the satellite outside of earth. That plus the radius of the Earth will give me to total radius. But what equations should I use. I don't think I know \omega nor do I know the velocity. If I use Kepler's third law equation all I get is the distance to the geosynchronous orbit. Don't know what to do.
 
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In orbit the force pulling the satelite down due to gravity is equal to the outward (centripetal force)

So for any orbital height there is a speed you need to go at to provide enough outward force. The only special thing about GSO is that the speed is exactly that needed to go around the Earth on 24hours

This is basically what Kepler's third law says - although you need the value of the constant in this case.
 
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Yes, I kind of figured that since there was no other quantity given for time, but I still don't see or understand how we would find the radius - the height of the satellite above the earth.
 
Kepler's law

T^2 = [ (4pi^2) / (GM_E) ] r^3

I would solve for r then?

but I am not sure if that gives me the distance TO the satellite.
 
Correct - or you can just use:
Force due to gravity depends on radius F = GMm/r^2
Centripetal force depends on radius F = m w^2/r
(M is mass of Earth, m is mass of satelite)


Set the forces equal to each other and find the raidus
Note that r is radius of the orbit - ie measured from the centre of the Earth, to get orbital height (above sea level) you need the raious of the Earth as well
 
WOW

I was making such a silly mistake.
I was doing what I said above - using Kepler's third law - but when I solved for r I just used r as my answer. Which was not correct at all. I needed to subtract The r I got from Kepler's law from the radius of the Earth to get my distance.

Such a silly mistake

Thanks for helping me out, much appreciated.
 

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