Calculating atomic velocities from forces

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The discussion centers on calculating atomic velocities from forces using interatomic pair potentials. A participant calculates a force based on a potential function, yielding an acceleration of 4.1x10^15 m/s², which leads to unrealistic velocity changes. Key feedback suggests a misunderstanding of units, particularly regarding the derivative of energy with respect to distance (dE/dr), and emphasizes the need for clarity on charge (q) in the force equation (F=qE). The conversation highlights the importance of accurate unit conversion and proper application of classical mechanics in molecular dynamics simulations.

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Homework Statement

I am trying to use interatomic pair potentials to calculate forces from velocities, but I seem to arrive at ridiculous values.

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Consider that I have a potential function where (r is distance, E is potential energy, Ang is Angstroms)

dE/dr @ 3 Ang is about 0.0342 eV/Ang, or 3.42x10^8 eV/m, or in Joules: 5.48x10^-21 J/m.

Using the mass of oxygen, 1.34x10^-26 kg, and classical mechanics (a=F/m) this force should apply an acceleration of 4.1x10^15 m/s^2.

My calculated acceleration suggests that the velocity should change by on the order of meters per femtosecond, at least 10 orders of magnitude greater than what would make molecular dynamics simulations viable.

Have I made a mistake?
 
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You seem to have confused your units ... E has units of volts per length ... so dE/dr would be volts per area?
Don't know why you are doing dE/dr anyway - don't you want something more like: E=dV/dr ?
F=qE ... what did you use for q?

I cannot figure what mistake you have made, though, unless I see your actual calculation.
 

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