Calculating Average Force on Walls from Bouncing Ball Collisions

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The problem involves a ball of mass m bouncing between two parallel walls with elastic collisions. The objective is to determine the average force exerted by the ball on the walls, given the distance between the walls, d.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the change in momentum during collisions and the calculation of average force. There is a focus on determining the appropriate time interval, Δt, for the calculations. Questions arise regarding the time between collisions and the significance of contact time during collisions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the time intervals involved. Some have suggested that the average force should consider the overall average rather than just the time of contact during each collision. Clarifications about the variables used in the calculations are being sought.

Contextual Notes

Participants are clarifying the definitions of variables such as l and d, and there is some confusion regarding the time intervals relevant to the average force calculation.

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Homework Statement


A ball of mass m bounces between two parallel walls, such that its velocity v is perpendicular to the walls.The collisions with the walls are totally elastic. What is the average force exerted by the ball on the walls, if the distance between the walls is d?


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The Attempt at a Solution


When the ball collides with one of the walls and bounces back, the total change in momentum is ##2mv##. The average force can be calculated by
F_{avg}=\frac{2mv}{\Delta t}
What can I substitute for ##\Delta t## here? :confused:

Thanks!
 
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What's the time between collisions?
 
Doc Al said:
What's the time between collisions?

2l/v? But why do I need the time between collisions? ##\Delta t## is the time of contact between the wall and the ball during the collision. :confused:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
2l/v? But why do I need the time between collisions? ##\Delta t## is the time of contact between the wall and the ball during the collision. :confused:
I think they mean overall average, not average just during each collision.
 
Doc Al said:
I think they mean overall average, not average just during each collision.

In my previous post, I meant to say l/v. Is that correct?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
In my previous post, I meant to say l/v. Is that correct?
What is l? If you mean d, then no.
 
Doc Al said:
What is l? If you mean d, then no.

Yes, I mean d. Sorry.

Why is it wrong? Do you mean the time taken between the collisions on the same wall?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Do you mean the time taken between the collisions on the same wall?
Yes, exactly.
 
Doc Al said:
Yes, exactly.

Its 2d/v then. Hence the average force is mv^2/d. Thank you Doc Al! :smile:
 
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Good! :approve:
 

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