Calculating Average Net Force on a Car Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average net force on a car that accelerates from 50.0 km/h to 90.0 km/h over a period of 12.0 seconds. The subject area includes concepts of kinematics and dynamics, specifically focusing on force and acceleration.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the average net force using the change in velocity and time, but encounters issues with unit conversions and the resulting force not matching provided answer choices. Some participants question the use of non-SI units and emphasize the importance of converting to SI units for accurate calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of using SI units and the necessity of proper unit conversion in calculations. There is a focus on dimensional analysis and ensuring that the calculations align with the expected units of force.

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Participants highlight the importance of using SI units, noting that failure to convert distances and times appropriately can lead to incorrect force units. There is a mention of the specific answer choices being in Newtons, which adds to the urgency of clarifying unit conversions.

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1) A student driving her 1.60 x 102 kg car at 50.0 km/h presses on the gas pedal and accelerates to 90.0 km/h in 12.0 s. What is the average net force applied by the car’s engine during this time interval?



2) v=vf-vi, f=ma, a=v/t



3) i found v by subtracting 90.0km/h by 50.0km/h. i also converted 12.0s to hours which gave me 0.003 repeated. Then i tried finding acceleration by dividing 40km/h by time. then i plugged that in the force formula and multiplied it by 1600kg, but when i find my answer, it is not one of the answers i can chose from.
 
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Your acceleration would be in units of km/h2. When you multiply this by kg, you get some unit of force, but it is certainly not Newtons!

You should convert everything to SI units.
 
what are SI units?
 
dance_sg said:
what are SI units?

Well, you should know this, because it's basically the first thing taught in introductory physics classes in school. In any case, the SI (Systeme International) unit system, also called the metre-kilogram-second unit system, is derived from the metric system and is a system of units in which everybody agreed that the metre, kilogram, and second would be the basic units of length, mass, and time, respectively. So the units of m, kg, and s are SI base units, and all other units are derived from them (i.e. all other units are combinations of these three). Actually there is one other SI base unit, the ampere, which measures current.

EDIT: It looks like I overlooked the kelvin, candela, and mole, but they are not relevant to problems involving motion.
 
ok, makes sense.
but the chioces given to me are all in Newtons..
 
dance_sg said:
ok, makes sense.
but the chioces given to me are all in Newtons..

The Newton is an SI unit. The point I was making is that if you don't use SI units for length mass, and time in your calculations, then the force you calculate won't be in Newtons. You should be keeping track of the units when you do your calculations so that you are aware of this.

A dimensional analysis:

[force] = [mass]*[acceleration] = [mass]*[length]*[time]-2

Therefore:

1 N = 1 kg m s -2

If you don't convert your distances from km to m and your times from h to s, then your force will be in units of kg km h -2, which is NOT a Newton and is therefore NOT SI.
 

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