Calculating Average Speed and Distance Traveled with Constant Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around calculating average speed and distance traveled for an object undergoing constant acceleration, starting with an initial velocity of 8 m/s and ending with a final velocity of -8 m/s over a time interval of two seconds.

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  • Participants explore the use of the average speed formula based on initial and final velocities, questioning the validity of the professor's approach. There is a discussion about the difference between average speed and average velocity, with some participants suggesting that the average speed should be lower than 8 m/s due to the object's change in direction.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts of speed versus velocity, with some participants asserting that both the original poster and the professor have valid points. The conversation indicates a lack of consensus on the correct interpretation of average speed and distance, while some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of the motion into distinct parts.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between speed and velocity, as well as the implications of displacement in the context of the problem. There is also mention of the need to consider the direction of motion when calculating average values.

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I've had trouble with this for a while, and I asked my professor about it today but it still doesn't really make sense.

Let's say an object moves with an initial velocity of 8 m/s for two seconds, ending with a final velocity of -8 m/s (with a constant acceleration).

At 0 seconds, velocity is 8 m/s
At 1 second, velocity is 0 m/s
At 2 seconds, velocity is -8 m/s

How do I correctly calculate the average speed and distance traveled?

My professor told me that you can simply use the equation (Vf + Vo) / 2 to calculate it since it has a constant acceleration, and this comes out to be 8 m/s. This doesn't make sense to me, because it is only traveling at 8 m/s at the beginning instant and final instant of the motion. Average speed is the speed the object traveled on average during the motion, and I don't see how it would be an average of 8 if it was only 8 for two instances. It seems like it should be lower.

Also, to find the distance traveled, you can simply multiply the average speed by the time interval. If I go with what my professor says the average speed is (8 m/s) then it would simply be 8 * 2 = 16m.

However, if you split the problem into two parts and find the distance traveled from t0 to t1, and t1 to t2, you get average speeds of 4 m/s for each part which results in a combined distance of only 8m. The split method is the one I used to solve the problem because it makes more sense to me.

So, am I right or is my professor right? If I'm wrong, please explain extremely clearly how I'm wrong because I'm really not getting it.

I'd like to add another note down here that it seems illogical to me that an object that travels with a constant velocity of 8 m/s over two seconds will have an average speed of 8 m/s, and an object that begins at 8 m/s, slows down, then speeds up again to 8 m/s will also have an average speed of 8 m/s.
 
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Sephfire said:
I've had trouble with this for a while, and I asked my professor about it today but it still doesn't really make sense.

Let's say an object moves with an initial velocity of 8 m/s for two seconds, ending with a final velocity of -8 m/s (with a constant acceleration).

At 0 seconds, velocity is 8 m/s
At 1 second, velocity is 0 m/s
At 2 seconds, velocity is -8 m/s

How do I correctly calculate the average speed and distance traveled?

My professor told me that you can simply use the equation (Vf + Vo) / 2 to calculate it since it has a constant acceleration, and this comes out to be 8 m/s.

I would say the average velocity = (V_f + V_o)/2 = (+8 + (-8))/2 = (+8 - 8)/2 = 0/2 = 0.

a velocity with a negative sign will have the opposite direction of a velocity with a
positive sign.
Velocity and displacement will work in all the usual constant acceleration equations.

you only have (average speed) = (average velocity) or (distance traveled) = (final position) - (starting position) for motion that always has the same direction.
It is correct to split the time interval in 2 parts, so the velocity has the same direction in each part. .
 
Okay, but I said speed, not velocity... and also distance, not displacement. =/
 
Hmm, from what I understand, you are mixing up velocity and speed. See, velocity is displacement/time, while speed is distance/time. Since displacement is the length between the starting position of your object and it's final position, your object did 0 displacement over a period of 2 seconds, thus, your object's average velocity is 0/2 = 0m/s (keep in mind that it went 8m in one direction then 8m in the opposite direction, which put it back in it's starting position, as indicated by your - sign). However, since distance is the total length moved by your object (regardless of positions or directions), your object moved 8m + 8m= 16m, which divided by 2 to get the average speed is 8m/s. So, both you and your prof. are correct, just a simple matter of miscommunication, I think. Then again, I am only 16 years old, and only took high school physics, so I am not sure if I am correct.
 
The displacement is zero.
The distance traveled is 8 meters
The average velocity is zero.
The average speed is 4 m/s.

Hint: When caculating the distance travelled, first find the velocity zero crossing and then consider the positive and the negative velocity regions separately.
 
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