Calculating Bird's Speed After Swallowing an Insect

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a bird after it swallows an insect, using principles of momentum conservation. The scenario includes a bird with a mass of 300 g flying at 6.4 m/s and an insect with a mass of 10 g approaching at 33 m/s.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum, with one participant expressing uncertainty about their previous calculations. Others question the initial and final conditions of the system and the interpretation of the speeds involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or outcome yet.

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Participants are working under a time constraint, as the problem is due soon. There is also confusion regarding the correct application of the momentum equations and the definitions of initial and final speeds in this context.

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I attempted this problem, and got it wrong. I am a little lost on what I am doing wrong. Any help would be nice. It is due tonight.

Problem: A 300 g bird flying along at 6.4 m/s sees a 10 g insect heading straight toward it with a speed of 33 m/s (as measured by an observer on the ground, not by the bird). The bird opens its mouth wide and enjoys a nice lunch. What is the bird's speed immediately after swallowing?

For my wrong answer, I used the equation Vf = (MVi)/Mf, which game me ((.3 kg)(6.4 m/s))/.31 kg, which was wrong. (Lowercase letters should be subscripts)
 
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Consider the initial and final momentums and apply, as you already have the conservation of momentum.

Make sure you consider everything in the system, the equation you posted is wrong in this situation.
 
My next thought is that it doesn't change. The speed of the bird stays 6.4 m/s. But I am not sure if that is right either.
 
I tried what I said, and it was wrong too, but I thought I would try anyways.

When you say I have the initial and final momentums, how do you get the final and initial? Is the initial speed for the bird, which I would say it is?
 

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