Find the voltage needed to accelerate the electron from rest

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The problem involves calculating the speed of an electron behaving as a wave and determining the voltage required to accelerate it from rest to that speed. The context is rooted in concepts of wave-particle duality and energy conservation in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the electron's speed using the de Broglie wavelength formula and question the validity of the non-relativistic assumption. They explore the relationship between kinetic energy and voltage, referencing conservation of energy principles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on relating voltage to kinetic energy and questioning the implications of the calculated speed. There is an exploration of the assumptions regarding relativistic effects and the nature of speed limits in physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the calculated speed exceeding the speed of light and discussing the necessity of using relativistic equations for accuracy. There is also a reference to the rest mass of the electron and its relevance in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


An electron moving with a speed v can behave as wave with wavelength 6.4 x 10^-15 m. Given that the mass of electron = 9.1 x 10^-31 kg and the charge of electron is 1.6 x 10^-19 C, find
(a) the speed of v of the electron, and
(b) the voltage needed to accelerate the electron from rest until it acquires the speed v.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) wavelength = h / mv
v = h/ (m x wavelength)
= 1.1384 X 10^11 m/s

How do I calculate (b)? Please help, thank you. Kindly correct me if (a) is wrong.
 
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You are dealing with non-relativistic electron, right ? In that case i don't see any mistake in (a)
(b) Energy = charge * voltage, can you translate that to kinetic energy and pull a speed out of there ?
[EDIT: In case i wasn't clear, the potential energy which is E = e*V translates to kinetic energyenergy but that fact, e*V = mv^2 /2]
 
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The electron gains kinetic energy when moving at the speed you found. Think of the conservation of energy and from where it gained that energy.
 
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0coffeebean0 said:

Homework Statement


An electron moving with a speed v can behave as wave with wavelength 6.4 x 10^-15 m. Given that the mass of electron = 9.1 x 10^-31 kg and the charge of electron is 1.6 x 10^-19 C, find
(a) the speed of v of the electron, and
(b) the voltage needed to accelerate the electron from rest until it acquires the speed v.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) wavelength = h / mv
v = h/ (m x wavelength)
= 1.1384 X 10^11 m/s

How do I calculate (b)? Please help, thank you. Kindly correct me if (a) is wrong.
What is the speed of light? Can you use the rest mass of electron to calculate the momentum? See:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/relmom.html
 
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Noctisdark said:
You are dealing with non-relativistic electron, right ?
Can anything travel with 1.1384 X 10^11 m/s speed?
 
ehild said:
Can anything travel with 1.1384 X 10^11 m/s speed?
Classically, Yes .
 
What is the speed of light?
Noctisdark said:
Classically, Yes .
And in reality?
 
ehild said:
What is the speed of light?

And in reality?
It doesn't, but people before the 19th thought that it was possible either way, you are extremely right, but as a homework he should use special relativity, i think, however sorry for that .
 

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