Calculating Constant Engine Force for Motorcyclist Acceleration

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The problem involves a motorcyclist with a total mass of 320 kg who stops from a velocity of 36 km/h in 25 seconds without braking, and then accelerates from a full stop to a velocity of 126 km/h in 6 seconds. The task is to calculate the constant forward force of the engine while considering the forces that restrict motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of accelerations for both stopping and accelerating phases, with initial attempts focusing on the acceleration during the acceleration phase. Questions arise regarding the nature and calculation of the retarding force acting on the motorcyclist.

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The discussion has evolved with participants questioning the assumptions regarding the retarding force. Some guidance has been provided on how to calculate this force using kinematics and Newton's second law. Multiple interpretations of the forces at play are being explored, particularly regarding friction and potential uphill movement.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the need to account for retarding forces and the implications of the motorcyclist's stopping and accelerating conditions. There is an emphasis on precision in the final answer as requested in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Motorcyclist (total mass 320 kg) stops from a velocity of 36km/h in 25 s without breaking.
The same motorcyclist accelerates in the same conditions from full stop to velocity of 126km/h in 6 s.

Homework Equations


Calculate the constant forward carrying force of the engine, if the forces restricting the motion remain constant. Give the answer in 1 N precision.

The Attempt at a Solution


all i could find out is the accelerations, a1=-0.4m/s2 and a2= 0.58m/s2
and then i guess we will be interested only in a2, means only the second step of accelerating from a full stop. so F=320*0.58=185.6N
and since they asked to give the answer in 1N precision so it will be 186N.
Please tell me if I'm right
 
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No, you are not right, since you must read the problem carefully. There is a retarding force acting while the cycle is accelerating ...what is that retarding force?
 
What retarding force? the friction force you mean?
 
chawki said:
What retarding force? the friction force you mean?
Whatever the force is that you calculate in the first part, when the cycle comes to a stop without braking.
 
you mean the friction that brought the cycle to stop? and how do we find that?
 
It might be friction, or perhaps the cycle is moving uphill...or a combination thereof.. it doesn't matter...you can calculate that retarding force the same way you tried to calculate the motor force in part 2 ---find the acceleration and the retarding force in part 1 using kinematics and Newton 2.
 
Ok well!
FR is a resistive force.

-FR=-m*a1
a1=0-10/25-0
a1=-0.4m/s2

-FR=-m*a1
FR=-320*(-0.4)=128N

During acceleration from a full stop, we have:
F-FR=m*a2

a2=35/6=5.83m/s2

F=m*a2+FR
F=(320*5.83)+128
F=1993.6N
and as we have been asked to give the answer in 1N precision, then F=1994N?
 

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