Motion on a rough inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car moving up a rough inclined plane at an angle of 10 degrees. The car's initial velocity is 10 m/s, and it experiences friction with a coefficient of 0.5. The participants are analyzing the forces acting on the car as it brakes and attempts to determine the distance it travels before coming to a stop.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing the calculation of net force acting on the car, questioning whether to add or subtract the forces involved, particularly the frictional force and the component of gravitational force acting down the incline. There is also confusion regarding the absence of an upward force from the engine while the car is braking.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces at play. Some have provided clarifications regarding the calculations, while others are still questioning the assumptions made about the forces acting on the car.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the car's motion upwards against the forces acting downwards, specifically focusing on the effects of friction and gravitational force without accounting for any upward force from the engine during braking.

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Homework Statement


A car is moving up a rough inclined plane/road of 10 degrees with a velocity of 10m/s. The coefficient of friction is equal to 0.5 and the mass of the car is 10kg. The car brakes. After what distance does the car stop?

Homework Equations


F=ma
v^2=u^2+2as
u= initial velocity
v= final velocity

The Attempt at a Solution


s=?
u= 10m/s
v= 0m/s
a= ?

a= net force/ mass

= [(-0,5 x 10kg x 9.81m/s2 x cos10) - 10kg(9.81m/s2)(sin10) ]/ 10kg = -6.53m/s2

and using v^2=u^2+2as , s is found to be 7.65m

What I am confused about is the net force for which I assumed to be:
(-0,5 x 10kg x 9.81m/s2 x cos10) - 10kg(9.81m/s2)(sin10)

So I just calculated -[ the weight of the car acting downwards + friction ( found by μR) ]. The car is actually moving upwards. But there is no force by the engine in upwards direction? So is the net force really acting downwards?
 
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Since both force components are acting to slow the car down, should you be subtracting or adding them?
 
scottdave said:
Since both force components are acting to slow the car down, should you be subtracting or adding them?

I guess I can either go for -(F1+F2) or -F1-F2 . I applied the second one
 
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Taylan said:
I guess I can either go for -(F1+F2) or -F1-F2 . I applied the second one
OK, I missed the minus sign before the 0.5, the first time I looked at it. So you had it correct.
 
Alright thanks a lot! so there isn't any force acting upwards by the engine since the car is braking right? like although the car is moving upwards, there are only forces that are acting downwards to be considered which are; friction and mg ?
 
Taylan said:
Alright thanks a lot! so there isn't any force acting upwards by the engine since the car is braking right? like although the car is moving upwards, there are only forces that are acting downwards to be considered which are; friction and mg ?
Yes.
 

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