Calculating Distance Between Two Joggers on a Run

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The problem involves calculating the distance between two joggers who follow different paths starting from the same point. The first jogger runs north and then east, while the second jogger runs south and then west. The task is to determine their final separation distance after completing their runs.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for visualizing the joggers' paths, including drawing graphics to identify symmetries. There are suggestions to simplify calculations by using Cartesian coordinates instead of polar coordinates. Some participants question the necessity of certain steps taken in the calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants offering guidance on simplifying the calculations. While one participant believes the original poster's result is correct, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to arrive at that result.

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Two joggers start their run at the same starting point. One jogger runs 2.0km north and then turns to the east and runs an additional 3.0km. The second jogger initially heads south and runs 4.0km before turning to the west and runs another 1.0km. How far apart are the two joggers once they are done?

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My attempt at the solution is below. Can anyone verify my work to see if it is correct? If not, where did I go wrong?
 

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Try to draw all jogging paths in one graphic and look whether you can produce symmetries. It'll shorten your calculation to 2 lines.
 
Your result is correct. But if I may suggest, you've taken a rather complicated way to get there by going through conversions to polar form and all the trig it entails.

If you stick to Cartesian representation of the vectors for the calculations it would go much easier. Then you can add or subtract the components directly, and at the end find the magnitude. For example, if you let a vector r = (x,y) represent a jogger's position when he finishes his trek, where x is the east-west direction component and y the north-south direction component, both in km, then for the two joggers:

r1 = (3, 2) which represents {3 km east, 2 km north}
r2 = (-1, -4) which represents {1 km west, 4 km south}

It's then a simple matter to form r = r1 - r2, a vector from jogger 2 to jogger 1, and find the magnitude of r.
 
Looks good, but you went through a lot of steps when instead you just needed the last four steps because the x and y components of A and B can be determined without those earlier steps.
 

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