Calculating E/M for Helmholtz Coils -- help please

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The discussion focuses on calculating the charge-to-mass ratio (e/m) for electrons using data from a laboratory experiment involving Helmholtz coils. The user initially calculated an e/m value of 1.96 x 1011 Coulombs/kg, while the accepted value is 1.76 x 1011 Coulombs/kg. The discrepancy was identified as a potential unit error, specifically between Coulombs per kg and abcoulombs per kg. Ultimately, the user confirmed that their professor accepted their calculation, indicating that their methodology was correct.

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edit: wait... I think the discrepancy is that I calculated Coulombs per kg? and the accepted value I was looking at was in abcoulombs per kg. If that is indeed the case, then my answer is indeed close to the accepted value of 1.76 * 10^11 Coulomb/kg. 1. Homework Statement

I am trying to calculate e/m for data I got from a laboratory experiment with a helmholtz coils. I am not sure if I have bad data, or if I have a mistaken unit somewheres. I am getting 1.96 * 1011 after I average all my e/m together. I should be getting 1.76 * 107

Am I doing something wrong, or is it my data? I am not going to put all my data up. I will just put some 1 measurement and please tell me if I am using wrong units somewheres.

Homework Equations


http://badger.physics.wisc.edu/lab/manual2/node10_tf.html

e/m = [PLAIN]http://badger.physics.wisc.edu/lab/manual2/img129.gif2.47 x 1012[PLAIN]http://badger.physics.wisc.edu/lab/manual2/img130.gif[PLAIN]http://badger.physics.wisc.edu/lab/manual2/img131.gif[PLAIN]http://badger.physics.wisc.edu/lab/manual2/img132.gif coulombs/kg

The Attempt at a Solution



my measurement is:

accelerated voltage = 40 volts
current for helmholtz coils = 2.46 Amps
Radius of coil = .33 meters
there are 72 turns on each coil
radius of the electron beam = .039 meters

I get 2.25 * 10^11
is this what my data gives me, or am I using the formula incorrectly? I should get 10^7
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
no worries. I went ahead and went with what I had. It must have been correct, my professor accepted it.
 

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