Calculating Elevator Free Fall After Passing the Earth's Core

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of an elevator free falling through a shaft that passes through the center of the Earth. Participants explore the height the elevator would reach after passing the Earth's core, considering factors like gravitational forces and the effects of a uniform versus varying density of the Earth.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the elevator would gain height equal to the distance it fell, reaching the same height on the opposite side of the Earth, assuming no air resistance or friction.
  • Others suggest that gravitational radiation would cause the elevator to gain slightly less height, estimating it to be a bit less than 3463 miles.
  • A participant mentions that the journey through the Earth would take around 40 minutes, while another estimates it to take about 38 minutes, referencing a source that assumes a uniform Earth density.
  • One participant introduces a mathematical model describing the acceleration due to gravity at any radial displacement from the center of the Earth, leading to simple harmonic motion, concluding that the elevator would oscillate and reach the same height on the other side.
  • Another participant references a similar question from a physics paper, indicating that this topic has been explored in academic contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the exact height the elevator would reach and the time it would take to traverse the Earth. There is no consensus on the impact of gravitational radiation or the effects of Earth's varying density on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about uniform density versus varying density of the Earth, and the neglect of factors such as air resistance and friction, which could affect the results.

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Lets assume there is an elevator shaft all the way through the center of earth. If the elevator free falls down the shaft after it passes the center of the Earth how much height will the elevator gain before coming to a complete stop assuming no wind resistance in the elevator shaft?

Diameter if Earth is 7926 miles.

I reality how much height will the elevator really gain before it comes to a stop?
 
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gary350 said:
Lets assume there is an elevator shaft all the way through the center of earth. If the elevator free falls down the shaft after it passes the center of the Earth how much height will the elevator gain before coming to a complete stop assuming no wind resistance in the elevator shaft?

Diameter if Earth is 7926 miles.

I reality how much height will the elevator really gain before it comes to a stop?

A bit less than 3463 miles. The system will lose a tad to gravitational radiation. But an expert will give you an exact answer shortly.
 
Ignoring friction and air resistance, it will go up to exactly the same height as it started, on the other side of the earth. This will take around 40 minutes.
 
It would take about 38 minutes to go through the Earth. If you follow http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mechanics/earthole.html" you will find a simplified version of it. It assumes a uniform Earth. But since the Earth's density increases with depth it would take about 4 minutes less than the 42 minutes that they calculated.
 
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Ha,OP google gravity train.Interesting concept.And the result shocking!
 
The acceleration due to gravity at any radial displacement "r" from the center of the Earth (while inside of it) along the diameter is given by:

g = -k^2r

where k^2 = \frac{4}{3} \pi G \rho,

G is the gravitational constant, and \rho is the average density.From this, you get the simple harmonic motion differential equation:

\ddot{r}+k^2r=0

The solution to which is:

r=r_0~cos(kt+\phi )So the elevator would oscillate in simple harmonic motion with a period of:

T=\frac{2\pi}{k}=\sqrt{\frac{3\pi}{G\rho}}In short (to answer your question), it would reach the exact same height on the other side of the planet from which it was dropped.
 
Subductionzon said:
It would take about 38 minutes to go through the Earth. If you follow http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mechanics/earthole.html" you will find a simplified version of it. It assumes a uniform Earth. But since the Earth's density increases with depth it would take about 4 minutes less than the 42 minutes that they calculated.

interesting - a very similar question came up in a 1st year cambridge physics paper (http://www-teach.phy.cam.ac.uk/dms/dms_getFile.php?node=5735")
 
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