Calculating FRF & Coherence between Acceleration Signals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency response function (FRF) and coherence function between two acceleration signals obtained from accelerometers placed on a suspended element. Participants explore the challenges of working with stationary signals of varying lengths and the implications of averaging FRFs and coherence functions across multiple realizations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating FRF and coherence functions between two acceleration signals, noting the signals are stationary and not triggered, resulting in differing lengths.
  • Another participant questions the appropriateness of the forum for this topic and requests more details about the experimental setup to determine if it should be moved to a different forum.
  • A participant attempts to clarify the concept of "realization," suggesting it refers to a time period for signal acquisition and inquires about the nature of the excitation (e.g., whether it can be considered white noise).
  • There is a suggestion to average the FRFs between realizations if the cropping of signals does not affect the calculations, along with a reminder to apply window functions and use power spectra for transfer function evaluation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of certain terms, such as "realization" and the nature of the excitation. There is no consensus on the best approach to calculate the FRF and coherence functions, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined key terms or assumptions, such as the nature of the excitation or the impact of signal length differences on calculations. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical considerations regarding the averaging of FRFs and coherence functions.

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Hello, I'm a newbie of signal processing, I would like to calculate a frf between two acceleration signals. I have several realizations of each signal. These signals are stationaries and they aren't triggered, so signal arrays doesn't have the same length. I have got these acceleration signal by two accelerometer placed at the top and at the bottom of a suspensed element. These element should have a natural frequency in working condition roughly of 2/3Hz.
How can I have a good frf and the coherence function estimations between the two signals? Can I simpy average frf and coherence function of every realizations? I hope to have well explained my problem, if there are any doubt, I will give all the necessary information
 
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serbring said:
Hello, I'm a newbie of signal processing, I would like to calculate a frf between two acceleration signals. I have several realizations of each signal. These signals are stationaries and they aren't triggered, so signal arrays doesn't have the same length. I have got these acceleration signal by two accelerometer placed at the top and at the bottom of a suspensed element. These element should have a natural frequency in working condition roughly of 2/3Hz.
How can I have a good frf and the coherence function estimations between the two signals? Can I simpy average frf and coherence function of every realizations? I hope to have well explained my problem, if there are any doubt, I will give all the necessary information

I'm not sure that the ME forum is the right place for your question. Could you please give more details about the setup? If you can present more details, maybe it will make sense to move this thread to EE or elsewhere.
 
serbring said:
Hello, I'm a newbie of signal processing, I would like to calculate a frf between two acceleration signals. I have several realizations of each signal. These signals are stationaries and they aren't triggered, so signal arrays doesn't have the same length. I have got these acceleration signal by two accelerometer placed at the top and at the bottom of a suspensed element. These element should have a natural frequency in working condition roughly of 2/3Hz.
How can I have a good frf and the coherence function estimations between the two signals? Can I simpy average frf and coherence function of every realizations? I hope to have well explained my problem, if there are any doubt, I will give all the necessary information

Ok, let me try to figure out what you are trying to find.

It's a FRF of a structure, where both input and output are measured by accelerometers.

What do you mean by a realization? The system is being excited continuously, and a realization is a period of time where you perform the signal acquisition?

Is the excitation a white noise? Or, at least, can you consider it white noise? Does it matter where you crop the signals, in order to perform the calculations?

If it doesn't matter, go for the average of FRFs between the "realizations". Don't forget to apply the windows functions, as needed, and to use the transfer function evaluation through power spectra.
 

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