Calculating Gas Composition: Vinyl Chloride and Water Mixture at 4bars Pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the composition of a binary gas mixture of vinyl chloride and water vapor at a pressure of 4 bars. Participants explore the necessary information and methods required for determining the concentration of water in the mixture, considering the saturation of water by vinyl chloride.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about calculating the composition of a gas mixture given that water is saturated by vinyl chloride and the pressure is 4 bars.
  • Another participant clarifies that the mixture is indeed a binary gas mixture, suggesting that the composition may be temperature dependent.
  • A subsequent reply asserts that the composition does not depend on temperature, emphasizing a focus on weight composition instead.
  • Another participant challenges this view, stating that saturation vapor pressure is temperature-dependent, which implies that dew points and relative humidities are also temperature-dependent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the composition of the gas mixture is temperature-dependent, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect of the discussion.

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Participants mention the need for additional information or resources, such as websites or tables, to aid in the calculation of the gas composition, highlighting potential limitations in the available data.

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hello, (it was just a mistake when i double-posted dear moderator/administrator, so please let this thread on:rolleyes: )
how I can calculate the composition of a gas binary mixture of vinyl chloride and water knowing that I have only the following informations:
the water is saturated by the vinyl chloride
the pressure of the mixture is 4bars
or can you tell me what I have to look as information to be able to calculate the concentration of the water in the mixture?

thank you
 
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no one has any idea?:frown:
 
Are you talking about a binary gas mixture (ie: "water" is actually water vapor)?

It seems like the composition would then be temperature dependent.
 
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yes it's about a binary gas mixture, but it doesn't depend on the temperature since there are only gases and i just the weight composition.
if you don't know any method to calculate this composition, can you give me any useful website or tables about this??
thank you very much for replying Gokul
 
bigufo said:
yes it's about a binary gas mixture, but it doesn't depend on the temperature since there are only gases and i just the weight composition.
This makes no sense to me. The saturation vapor pressure (and hence, partial pressure at saturation) is a function of the average energy of the vapor molecules, and so, it must depend on temperature.

Or else, dew points and relative humidities would be independent of each other.
 

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