Calculating Gravitational Potential Energy for a Sliding Box: Expert Tips

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational potential energy change for a crate sliding down a slope, specifically focusing on the relationship between height, distance, and gravitational force. The problem involves a crate with a known weight, friction coefficient, and slope angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to determine the vertical height from the slope angle and distance, questioning the completeness of the provided information. Some suggest using trigonometric relationships to find height, while others seek clarification on the original problem statement.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided various insights on calculating potential energy, with some suggesting methods to derive height from the given slope and distance. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate potential energy changes to work done by gravity and friction, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants note that the original problem may lack sufficient information to calculate the change in gravitational potential energy directly, emphasizing the need for clarity on the vertical height or additional parameters.

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How would you find the gravitational potenetial energy change for a box being slide down a slope? The weight of the box is 490N, the kinetic coefficient of friction is 0.12N, the slant of the slope is 45 degrees. I knwo how to find the forces acting ont he boxes and have calculated all of them but I have no clue how to solve for the potential energy. Please help!
 
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change in gravitational potential energy of a body of mass m is mgh, where h is the vertical height between the two positions.
 
but given just an angle how would I know the height?
 
are you sure that's all the information you've been given?
 
1. The vertical height should be given.
2. They may give the slant height and with that and the angle known we can calculate the vertical height.

Just check again the question otherwise it is not possible to caclculat the change in KE with given data.
 
THis was thwe actual complete question but I am just trying to solve the last part:

A 50.0 kg crate slides down a slope of 45 degrees for a distance of 200.0m. how much work will be done by gravity? How much work will be done by friction, if the kinetic coefficient of friction is 0.12? What speed will it attain at this point if it was originally at rest? By how much will its gravitaional potential energy change during the slide?

Again I have solve all of the problem except for the last question.
 
here
the distance covered is given 200m
hence the vertical height fallen is 200 sin 45deg. = 2000*707 = 141.4 m.
now you can calculate mgh
remember the height is lost means the potential energy decreases(may be the answer is having a negative sign)
 
How did you solve the question1?
Please show your method. I am asking avb - others don't reply.
 
the distance covered down the slope is given = 200m hence the vertical component of this distance is 200 sin45deg. = 200*0.707
mgh is the loss in potential energy.(_ve)
 
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I solved for the weight which was 490N, then I multiplied the weight times the 200m distance times cos(45degrees). y?
 
  • #11
Ok thank you mukundpa!
 
  • #12
Just think o the coincidence of the first question with the last one. I think you should know the relation between energy and work. What is the definition of energy? So you anyway solved it before posting?
 
  • #13
ya you may solve it in that way too if you have calculated the speed at the end
loss in potential energy = gain in KE + work done against friction
 

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