Calculating Halley's Comet's Speed at Perihelion

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jtappan
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Speed
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the speed of Halley's Comet at its perihelion, given its speed at aphelion and distances from the Sun at both points. The context is centered around gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy in the framework of orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of mass in energy equations and the application of Kepler's laws. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of angles in momentum equations and the implications of conservation laws.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the conservation of energy and momentum, while others express confusion about their calculations and interpretations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches without a clear consensus on the correct method or answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain values, such as mass and angles, which may affect their calculations and understanding of the problem.

Jtappan
Messages
95
Reaction score
0
1. Homework Statement

The orbit of Halley's Comet around the Sun is a long thin ellipse. At its aphelion (point farthest from the Sun), the comet is 5.7 * 10^12 m from the Sun and moves with a speed of 11.0 km/s. What is the comet's speed at its perihelion (closest approach to the Sun) where its distance from the Sun is 8.4 * 10^10 m?
_____km/s




2. Homework Equations

PEi+KEi=PEf+KEf

3. The Attempt at a Solution

do the m and g values cancel out when doing this because they are not given? I am totally lost...
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Yes, KE = 1/2 m v^2 and PE = M m /r where M is the mass of the sun.
 
Kepler's 2nd Law is equivalent to the conservation of momentum.

r[a]mv[a]sin(x) = r[p]mv[p]sin(x)

As you can see, the mass of the central body is irrelevant and the masses of the comet cancel out.
 
what is the meaning of sin(x) in both of these? it gives no angles
 
Jtappan said:
what is the meaning of sin(x) in both of these? it gives no angles

The momentum (mv) is perpendicular to the comet's path. Therefore, the angle between the r position vector and the momentum vector is 90. The sine of 90 is 1.
 
Last edited:
ok I tried that and got 746.4285 and that is still not the right answer...I don't know what I am doing wrong...
 
Do you get the same answer when you try conservation of energy?
 
Oh, you made another topic. mdk is right, r_a m v_a = r_p m v_p so you must have misinterpreted something he said or done the numbers wrong.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
13K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
9K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
8K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K