Calculating Initial Velocity and Acceleration of Passing Cars

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The problem involves two cars, a red car and a green car, moving toward each other along a straight path. The red car has a constant velocity, while the green car's velocity is questioned, along with its acceleration. The cars pass each other at specific points, and the original poster is attempting to calculate the initial velocity and acceleration of the green car based on the given conditions.

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  • The original poster describes their attempts to calculate the initial velocity of the green car using time and distance relationships based on the red car's constant velocities. They express confusion over obtaining two different velocities and question the correctness of their calculations.
  • Some participants suggest converting the red car's velocity from km/h to m/s before proceeding with calculations, and they also explore the implications of the green car's acceleration on the problem.
  • Further attempts to derive equations for the green car's motion are discussed, with participants questioning the methodology and the choice of equations to use.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the problem. Some have provided guidance on setting up equations for the green car's motion, while others are seeking clarification on their own methods and the reasoning behind the equations used. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, particularly regarding the acceleration of the green car.

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Participants note that the problem does not provide explicit answers in the textbook, leading to uncertainty in their calculations. There is also a mention of the need to consider the green car's acceleration, which has not been fully integrated into some participants' approaches.

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A red car and a green car move toward each other in adjacent lanes and parallel to an x-axis. At time t=0, the red car is at x=0 and the green car is at x=220. if the red car has a constant velocity of 20km/h, the cars pass each other at x=44.5m and if it has a constant velocity of 40km/h, they pass each other at x=76.6m. What are
a) the initial velocity of the green car?
and
b) the acceleration of the green car?

so i drew out a picture and said that 20t = 44.5, so t = 2.225s. also i said that 175.5=xt, so x = 78.88m/s.

then i used the next set of information and said 40t = 76.6, and found that t = 1.915 and therefore 143.4=xt so x = 74.88m/s.

am i supposed to get 2 different velocities? since 74.88 is smaller than 78.88, i said that 74.88 is the initial velocity.

for the acceleration, i did 78.88-74.44 / 2.225-1.915 = 12.90m/s^2

is my work correct? my textbook doesn't have the answer for this problem.
 
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Before solving the problem, convert the velocity from km/h to m/s.
 
rl.bhat said:
Before solving the problem, convert the velocity from km/h to m/s.

ok so 20km/h is 50/9 m/s and 40km/h is 100/9 m/s. i used the same process as above. 50/9 t = 44.5 so t = 8.01 and x = 21.91. 100/9 t = 76.6 so t = 6.894 and x = 20.80. so do i just say that the initial velocity of the green car is 20.80 m/s? basically i just want to know if my method for solving this problem is correct or not.

and also for acceleration i now get 21.91 - 20.80 / 8.01 - 6.894 = .9946 m/s2
 
The green car is moving with acceleration. When they meet, they must have traveled for the same time t.
So the first equation for green car will be
220 - 44.5 = 8.01*vo + 0.5*a*(8.01)^2 ...(1)
Similarly write down the second equation for the green car, when the red car has 40 km/h.
Then solve then two equation to find vo and a.
 
rl.bhat said:
The green car is moving with acceleration. When they meet, they must have traveled for the same time t.
So the first equation for green car will be
220 - 44.5 = 8.01*vo + 0.5*a*(8.01)^2 ...(1)
Similarly write down the second equation for the green car, when the red car has 40 km/h.
Then solve then two equation to find vo and a.

thanks! if you also can, can you tell me why my method is incorrect? how do you know which equation to use and how do you know when you are supposed to solve for certain variables first and then go use the main equation after? i understand your solution to solving the problem but i feel like i would never of thought of that. i have worked on this problem for at least an hour.
 
demonelite123 said:
ok so 20km/h is 50/9 m/s and 40km/h is 100/9 m/s. i used the same process as above. 50/9 t = 44.5 so t = 8.01 and x = 21.91. 100/9 t = 76.6 so t = 6.894 and x = 20.80. so do i just say that the initial velocity of the green car is 20.80 m/s? basically i just want to know if my method for solving this problem is correct or not.

and also for acceleration i now get 21.91 - 20.80 / 8.01 - 6.894 = .9946 m/s2
How did you get x = 21.91 and 20.80?What are they?
Green car is accelerating. In your solution you have not considered it.
 

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