Calculating Iodine Number and Structure of Oil

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The discussion revolves around calculating the iodine number of a specific oil based on the reaction of iodine with the oil. Participants explore the relationship between the amount of iodine reacted and the structure of the oil, particularly focusing on the number of double bonds present. The conversation includes elements of mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the nature of iodine in reactions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the iodine number indicates the number of double bonds in the fat/oil molecule.
  • Another participant questions the molar ratio of iodine to hydrocarbon and suggests calculating it based on the provided data.
  • A participant expresses frustration over their inability to solve the problem and requests a demonstration of the calculation process.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of the calculated moles of iodine, with one participant asserting that iodine exists as diatomic molecules (I2), which affects the calculation.
  • One participant calculates the moles of iodine as 0.112 and later discusses the implications of this value in relation to the number of double bonds in the oil.
  • Another participant points out a misunderstanding regarding the initial calculation, emphasizing the need to consider iodine as a diatomic molecule for accurate results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial calculation of moles of iodine, with some asserting it was done correctly while others highlight the need to adjust for the diatomic nature of iodine. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact interpretation of the results and the implications for the structure of the oil.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the initial calculation of iodine moles, with participants discussing the distinction between atomic iodine and diatomic iodine (I2). The implications of this distinction on the calculated molar ratio and the resulting conclusions about the oil's structure are not fully resolved.

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Hi,

I understand that the iodine number is the number of moles of iodine reacting with one mole of fat/oil which indicates the number of double bonds present in the fat/oil molecule.

However I am having trouble calculating them.

Can someone show me how to solve the following question please?

0.014 moles of a particular oil was found to react exactly with 14.2g of iodine. Calculate the number of moles of iodine that reacted and state what can be deduced about the structure of the oil from this information.

This is as far as I got:

Number of moles of iodine: 14.2/126.9 = 0.112mol
 
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Is it a homework question?

What is molar ratio of iodine and hydrocarbon?

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Thats all the information that was given, and Its just a revision question - not homework.
 
CSG18 said:
Thats all the information that was given

So use it to calculate molar ratio.
 
I have tried everything I know. With respect, if I knew how to do these questions then I wouldn't be asking. So if I could see how someone else worked it out, I will be able to see how its done, so I can apply it to similar questions.

Sorry for the trouble, I'm quite desperate.
 
If I had 4 apples and 6 bananas, what is the ratio of bananas to apples?
 
Are you serious?!

3:2
 
SJB was serious, but you are not serious. You know how to calculate fruit ratio, but not how to calculate molar ratio?

If you have 0.112 moles of iodine and 0.014 moles of hydrocarbon, what is their molar ratio?
 
8...?

Is that the number you are talking about?

Because I had already calculated 8, but the answer in my book says 0.0559 mols...?
 
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Ah, you made a mistake at the very beginning, I have not spotted it earlier. There is no such thing as atomic iodine.
 
  • #11
Seems we have two questions here.

First, how many moles of iodine, for which you have calculated (correctly) as 0.112mol of
atoms - how does iodine usually exist?

(looks like Borek has just beaten me to this)

Then, moving on, how does iodine react with double bonds - what is the ratio there?
 
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sjb-2812 said:
Seems we have two questions here.

First, how many moles of iodine, for which you have calculated (correctly) as 0.112mol of
atoms - how does iodine usually exist?

(looks like Borek has just beaten me to this)

Then, moving on, how does iodine react with double bonds - what is the ratio there?

Oh! Because iodine is diatomic, so there are 2 iodine atoms for every 0.112mols, for 1 iodine atom there are 0.056 mols, so that means the molar ratio is 4! So there are 4 double bonds?!

The answer 0.056 is approximately equal to 0.0559!

Thankyou thankyou soo much!

So you always have to find one atom of iodine?
 
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Borek said:
Ah, you made a mistake at the very beginning, I have not spotted it earlier. There is no such thing as atomic iodine.

Thank you Mr. Borek. I just could not figure out where I had gone wrong.
 
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CSG18 said:
So you always have to find one atom of iodine?

Huh? Please elaborate.

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  • #15
I just meant that the moles of iodine that I had initially calculated (0.112 mol) applied to I2 (a molecule of iodine), however I was asking instead of finding I2, the goal was to find just the number of moles of I.

Does that make sense?
 
  • #16
Quite the opposite. What you have initially found was number of moles of I (atomic iodine), while you should have been looking for moles of I2. Two reasons for that - first, iodine is diatomic. Second, it takes iodine molecule (two atoms) to react with double bond.

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  • #17
Thank you, I'm glad that's resolved.
 

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