Calculating lost mechanical energy

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The discussion revolves around calculating lost mechanical energy in the context of a collision between two football players. The original poster presents a scenario involving a fullback and an opponent, detailing their masses and velocities, and seeks guidance on how to determine the mechanical energy lost during the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of mechanical energy before and after the collision, with some suggesting to sum the mechanical energies of both players prior to the collision. Questions arise regarding the conservation of energy and momentum in inelastic collisions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared their attempts at calculating mechanical energy and have noted that adding the energies before the collision yielded correct results. There is ongoing exploration of whether mechanical energy is conserved in this scenario, with references to the nature of inelastic collisions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes considerations of kinetic and potential energy, as well as the implications of inelastic collisions on energy conservation. Participants are navigating the definitions and calculations involved without reaching a definitive conclusion on energy loss.

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Hey guys,

I'm trying to complete a homework problem, but I'm not quite sure how to approach it. Here is the question: A 90.5-kg fullback running east with a speed of 4.91 m/s is tackled by a 94.7-kg opponent running north with a speed of 2.93 m/s. Determine the mechanical energy that disappears as a result of the collision.

This question actually came after the question that read: Calculate the velocity of the players immediately after the tackle.

I solved that problem with the value of the magnitude being 2.83 m/s and the value of θ = 32.0°.

Now I know that in the book, they say that E_mech = K + U (kinetic energy and potential energy), but I don't quite know how to calculate the lost mechanical energy. Any pointers of how the process would go would be appreciated!

Thanks!
 
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Now I know that in the book, they say that E_mech = K + U (kinetic energy and potential energy), but I don't quite know how to calculate the lost mechanical energy. Any pointers of how the process would go would be appreciated!

Just calculate the mechanical energy before and after, then compare them.
 
I understand how to calculate the mechanical energy after the collision, but how do I do it before? Do I calculate the mechanical energy of the runner, of the tackler, or do I add both their mechanical energies prior to the collision, and then compare?
 
Ok, just tried it by adding the two mechanical energies prior to the collision and that gave me the correct answer. Thanks for the help!
 
bona0002 said:
Ok, just tried it by adding the two mechanical energies prior to the collision and that gave me the correct answer. Thanks for the help!


So is there any loss in the mechanical energy? I can't think of a reason for loss :S
To me it seems like both momentum and energy is conserved?
 
timarli said:
So is there any loss in the mechanical energy? I can't think of a reason for loss :S
To me it seems like both momentum and energy is conserved?
It's an inelastic collision. The two masses coalesce. Energy will certainly be lost.
 

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