Calculating Luminosity of a Star at Different Stages

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The discussion revolves around calculating the luminosity of a star as it evolves from the main sequence to the red giant phase, specifically focusing on the changes in luminosity due to variations in radius and temperature. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual understanding of stellar properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents a problem involving the luminosity of a star transitioning to the red giant phase, outlining the changes in surface temperature and radius.
  • Post 2 suggests that prior knowledge of the original luminosity and radius is unnecessary for determining the luminosity ratio after the star expands.
  • Post 3 calculates the luminosity ratio, indicating it increases by a factor of 50^2/(3^4) due to the changes in radius and temperature.
  • Post 5 questions how to determine the distance at which the star can be seen after its luminosity changes.
  • Post 6 prompts a discussion on the relationship between luminosity, distance, and apparent magnitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to calculating the luminosity ratio, but the discussion on how to find the distance at which the star can be seen remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not established the original luminosity or radius, which may affect the understanding of the problem. The relationship between luminosity, distance, and magnitude is mentioned but not fully explored.

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Students and enthusiasts interested in stellar evolution, astrophysics, and mathematical modeling of astronomical phenomena may find this discussion relevant.

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The question is A main sequence star is barely visible at a distance of 20 pc with a certain telescope. The star subsequently
ascends the red giant branch, during which time its surface temperature drops by a factor of 3 and its radius increases by a factor of 50.
a) Determine the how luminous the star is now compared to its original luminosity, that is, determine
LRED GIANT/LORIGINAL
b) Determine how far away this star could be seen now by the same telescope.

So far, I have, L=R^2 * T^4. and that Radius is proportional to \sqrt{luminosity}/temperature.
and Apparent magnitude - absolute magnitude = 5 log(base 10) (Distance/ 10 pc).
I am stuck at determining the radius and luminosity of the star before it ascends.
Any hints/ help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You don't need to know the radius and luminosity before it goes red giant. You are only asked to determine the ratio of the luminosity after it expands to the luminosity before it expands. The formulas you wrote have everything you need. If the radius increases by 50 and the temperature decreases by 3 and L~R^2*T^4, what happens to the luminosity?
 
The luminosity increases by 50^2/(3^4) Because temperature drops by a factor of 3?
 
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Sounds good to me!
 
So this value, 30.86 is LRedGiant/ L original? how do i go about finding out how far it can be seen from?
 
Do you know how to relate luminosity, distance, and magnitude?
 

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