Calculating Mass Defect of Americium-244

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass defect of Americium-244, focusing on the necessary values for atomic and neutron masses. Participants are exploring the implications of their calculations and the accuracy required in their answers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the mass defect using provided atomic masses but questions the correctness of their result. Some participants suggest that the precision of their calculations may be an issue, while others raise the possibility of needing to include electron mass in the calculations. There is also discussion about the significance of significant figures in reporting the final answer.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights about potential errors in calculation and the importance of accuracy. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but several suggestions for refining the calculations have been made.

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There is mention of the need to adhere to specific significant figure rules, and participants are questioning whether a negative mass defect is acceptable based on their course definitions. The original poster's lecture notes do not clarify these points, adding to the uncertainty in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Americium-244 is a rare isotope of Americium. What is the mass defect of Americium-244?

Use the following values for atomic and neutron masses when calculating your answer:

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The Attempt at a Solution



This was what I did:

Mass of protons = 95 x 1.007825 = 95.743375
Isotope = 149 x 1.008665 = 150.291085

Actual Mass Provided = 95.743375 + 150.291085 = 246.03446

Mass Defect = 246.03446 - 244.064279 = 1.970181

I've got that answer and its wrong. I also tried -1.97 and its still wrong. Can somebody please help me?

Do i need to consider electron mass? I computed it to be: Mass Defect with electron mass = 244.064279 - (246.03446 + 0.052155) = 2.022336 which is - 2.022336. Is this correct?
 
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The approach seems correct - computer mediated questions can be finicky about the exact form of the answer.
Your "actual mass provided" seems to have been calculated to only 5dp, but 6dp accuracy provided ...
I get:
Code:
> (1.007825*95 + (244-95)*1.008665) - 244.064279
ans =  1.97018099999997
amu for mass deficit.
So it looks like it was fair to round up: you should provide the trailing zero to demonstrate the dp accuracy.
http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/sc546_notes10/mass_defect.html
... it may well be that you should include the electrons. Did you try? Did you check your notes?
 
Simon Bridge said:
The approach seems correct - computer mediated questions can be finicky about the exact form of the answer.
Your "actual mass provided" seems to have been calculated to only 5dp, but 6dp accuracy provided ...
I get:
Code:
> (1.007825*95 + (244-95)*1.008665) - 244.064279
ans =  1.97018099999997
amu for mass deficit.
So it looks like it was fair to round up: you should provide the trailing zero to demonstrate the dp accuracy.
http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/sc546_notes10/mass_defect.html
... it may well be that you should include the electrons. Did you try? Did you check your notes?

The answers should be left to 3 significant figures. Thats why I can't seem to point out where I went wrong. My lecture notes did not mention anything about it.
 
Also, do you think the mass defect should be left as a negative answer?
 
A negative mass deficit would be like a negative deceleration wouldn't it?
If a negative surplus is a deficit then... but check how your course defines it.

Usually you would keep the lowest sig-fig in multiplication ... the lowest would be 2 in the atomic number ... but that's an absolute number so it's really 95.0000 to 6 sig fig. The next lowest is the atomic weight - which is 3 sig fig ... since there may be different isotopes in the sample, one could argue that the sig-fig here is important but IMO that's over-thinking things: nobody uses sig-fig IRL.

Maybe it's just a rule ... it means the computer is testing whether you can guess the format more than it tests your physics.
Fortunately it's not an exam.
 

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