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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for rigid bodies, specifically focusing on a cube with edges of length 'a'. The original poster attempts to apply integration techniques to derive the moment of inertia with respect to the center of mass, referencing various sources for formulas and methods.

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  • The original poster describes their approach using integrals to calculate the moment of inertia, expressing uncertainty about the correct application of triple integrals. Some participants question the method of combining the integrals and suggest that the integrals should be added rather than multiplied.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, offering clarifications and corrections regarding the setup of the integrals. There is a recognition of the need to measure moment of inertia about an axis, and some guidance has been provided regarding the correct formulation of the integrals.

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The original poster mentions a lack of experience with calculus III, which may impact their understanding of the integration process required for this problem. There is also an acknowledgment of potential confusion stemming from 2D problems that may have influenced their approach.

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I've been trying to calculate the moment of inertia (with respect to the center of mass) of several rigid bodies (including 2 dimensional ones) but I never reached any good answer.
For example a cube whose edges are equal to [tex]a[/tex].
My work : From wikipedia and at least 2 physics books, [tex]I_{CM}=\int r^2 dm[/tex]. From my notes it's equal to [tex]\int _{\Omega} \rho \zeta ^2 dV[/tex].
My alone work : [tex]dV=dxdydz[/tex] and as [tex]\rho[/tex] (the density) is constant I can write [tex]I_{CM}=\rho \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}} x^2 dx \cdot \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}} y^2 dy \cdot \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}}z^2dz[/tex]. Calculating this I get that [tex]I_{CM}=\rho \left( \frac{a^3}{12^3} \right)=\frac{M}{V}\cdot \frac{V}{12^3}=\frac{M}{12^3}[/tex].
I never took calculus III yet so I never dealt with triple integrals and even double ones. I'm guessing that I'm multiplying the 3 integrals and that instead I should be adding them or something like that, but I don't know why at all. I'd be glad if you could help me.
P.S. : I considered the origin of the system as being the center of mass of the cube.
 
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moment of inertia must be measured about an axis

Hi fluidistic! :smile:

(have an integral: ∫ and a rho: ρ and a squared: ² :wink:)
fluidistic said:
I've been trying to calculate the moment of inertia (with respect to the center of mass) of … a cube whose edges are equal to [tex]a[/tex].

[tex]I_{CM}=\rho \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}} x^2 dx \cdot \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}} y^2 dy \cdot \int_{-\frac{a}{2}}^{\frac{a}{2}}z^2dz[/tex]. Calculating this I get that [tex]I_{CM}=\rho \left( \frac{a^3}{12^3} \right)=\frac{M}{V}\cdot \frac{V}{12^3}=\frac{M}{12^3}[/tex].

i] r² = x² + y² + z², not times, so your integral would be

∫∫∫x²dxdydz + ∫∫∫y²dxdydz + ∫∫∫z²dxdydz

(but that's still wrong, because:)

ii] moment of inertia must be measured about an axis

I expect you've been misled by 2D questions which ask for the moment of inertia "about a point" … but they really mean about the axis coming straight out of the page through that point …

so the integral for the z-axis, say, would be ∫∫∫x²dxdydz + ∫∫∫y²dxdydz :smile:
 
Thank you very much tiny-tim.
I haven't been mislead by anything but myself.
I'll try to do it and do a lot of more complicated cases. I really like this part of Physics.
EDIT : I'm not sure I got it right. Can you confirm if the answer is [tex]\frac{Ma^2}{6}[/tex]. I had not to forget about [tex]\rho[/tex].
 
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Thank you very much once again.
 

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