Calculating Needed Thrust for a Moon Landing

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The discussion revolves around calculating the thrust needed for a landing craft of mass 12,000 kg to decelerate from a downward velocity of 15 m/s to zero during a Moon landing, with the gravitational force on the Moon being one-sixth of that on Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between thrust, gravitational force, and acceleration. Questions arise regarding the necessary upward force to achieve deceleration and the implications of constant velocity on acceleration calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the need for a net upward force to achieve deceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the required acceleration and the corresponding forces, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of calculating upward force without acceleration data, as the original poster initially only provided constant velocity information. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on whether the required force is upward or downward.

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Homework Statement



A landing craft of mass 12,000 kg prepares itself for a Moon landing. When at a
vertical distance 160m above the Moon’s surface it’s downwards velocity is 15 m/s.
A retrorocket is fired to give the craft an upward thrust to slow its speed to zero as it
meets the surface. Calculate the needed thrust to decelerate the craft its initial
downwards velocity to zero as it lands. The value for gravity on the Moon is g/6.
(Where g is 9.81m/s2).


Homework Equations



f=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Gravity =9.81/6
=1.635

F (craft)= ma
=12 000. 1.635
=19620
Therefore the craft will need a a thrust of 19620 N upwards. Is that right or is that other information needed??
 
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No that is not right. That upward thrust of 19620N merely counteracts the gravitational force acting on the landing craft. As such, there will be no net force on the craft, and it will continue moving downwards at a constant velocity of 15m/s.

In order to decelerate the craft, you are going to need a net upwards force acting on the craft. Based on the information in the question, what is the magnitude of the upward acceleration that the craft must undergo?
 
ok...but i can't calculate an upward force without, Acceleration I am only given constant velocity?? which means there is no acceleration
 
There has to be an acceleration for the craft's velocity to reduce to 0 m/s from 15 m/s. I think you should start by calculating the acceleration required to bring the craft's velocity down by 15 m/s in the given distance.
 
ok i did that and got -0.703125 as acceleration

then i got a force of -8437.5 N

so the craft needs a downward force of 8437.5N to come to 0 m/s? is it downward or upward??
 

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