Calculating Normal Force on a 3-Tiered Birthday Cake

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The discussion revolves around calculating forces related to a 3-tiered birthday cake and a scenario involving a hay bale and a pulley system. The cake tiers have weights of 16 kg, 9 kg, and 5 kg, and participants are asked to find the normal force acting on the second tier. The other problem involves a hay bale being pulled with a force, and participants are exploring the relationship between mass, weight, and acceleration.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply Newton's laws to both scenarios, questioning the relationship between mass and weight, and exploring how to calculate normal forces. Some express confusion about the calculations and concepts involved.

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farmhand attaches a 25 Kg bale of hay to one end of a rope passing over a frictionals pulley connected to a beam in the hay barn.then another farmhand pulls down on the opposite end of the rope with force of 277N. ignoring the mass of the rope, find the magntuide and dirction, gravitational force is 245N.


and this is the other one

3- tiered bithday cake rests on a table. from bottom to top the cake tiers weigh 16, 9, 5 respectively
find the magnitude and direction of normal force acting on 2nd tier?

i need ur help guys
i want someone to explain it to me like step be step
thanksss
 
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big daddy said:
i need ur help guys
i want someone to explain it to me like step be step
thanksss

We are goning to wait until you tell us what you have tried, or at least what you think the answer might be.

By the way, I am assuming that the first problem is asking for the magnitude and direction of the acceleration of the hay bale. You'll need Newton's 2nd Law (formula) for that.
 
the formula is f= ma
277=(245)a
a= 277/245
a=1.1 N
i think it's not right
i'm lost!
 
big daddy said:
i think it's not right

You're right about that. The test is tomorrow and you still don't know the difference between mass and weight? How many classes did you miss?:biggrin:

What is the mass of the Hay bale? What is its weight
 
mass is 25
weight is 245..
 
well to find the normal force of the guy pulling down, Fn=mg so m=28.3 kg. then u can do the rest
 
i'm still lost!
 

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