Calculating number of harmonics problem

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In summary, the frequency of the highest note on the saxophone is 1,568 Hz and the harmonics of this note can be calculated by dividing the frequency range of the human ear by the frequency of the note. It is important to consider whether the saxophone acts as an open or stopped pipe and the effect of end correction on the harmonics. The answer to the question about the number of harmonics of the note one octave below it will also depend on these factors.
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The frequency of the highest note on the saxophone is 1,568 Hz.
1.How many harmonics of that note can we hear?
2.How many harmonics of the note one octave below it can we hear?

I didn't put the title in correctly on my first thread, so calm down everyone. But my book aint helping me much on this problem, so some help would be great
 
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Spinnor said:

You also need to know whether a Saxophone acts as an open or stopped pipe, because if it acts as a stopped pipe then only the odd harmonics will be sounded.

A clarinet for example behaves as a stopped pipe in its lower register and an open pipe in its upper register. I am not familiar with the characteristics of a saxophone.

The harmonics of the sax will also be influenced by the end correction of the instrument too.

Then again, perhaps the question is just asking about harmonics of the fundamental frequency of the Sax - independent of the actual instument. Harmonics are, after all, just arithemtic. (As distinct from over-tones)
 
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PeterO said:
You also need to know whether a Saxophone acts as an open or stopped pipe, because if it acts as a stopped pipe then only the odd harmonics will be sounded.

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As a first approximation the 1568Hz sound pressure wave of the saxophone can be approximated by a single pure sine wave of frequency 1568Hz. As the wave is not a pure sine wave but slightly distorted sine wave we must add higher harmonics to better approximate the sound pressure wave.

Sound pressure = a1*sin(f) + a2*sin(2f) + a3*sin(3f) + a4*sin(4f) + ...

Where f = 1568Hz

Aren't these the harmonics the question asks about?
 
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Spinnor said:
As a first approximation the 1568Hz sound pressure wave of the saxophone can be approximated by a single pure sine wave of frequency 1568Hz. As the wave is not a pure sine wave but slightly distorted sine wave we must add higher harmonics to better approximate the sound pressure wave.

Sound pressure = a1*sin(f) + a2*sin(2f) + a3*sin(3f) + a4*sin(4f) + ...

Where f = 1568Hz

Aren't these the harmonics the question asks about?

Certainly they represent the set of harmonics of 1568 Hz

The question states: 1.How many harmonics of that note can we hear?

The range of human hearing will determine the highest one we could possibly hear - one of the harmonics is 15680 Hz, another is 156800 Hz, yet another 1568000 Hz. Can the human hear those very high frequencies?

Secondly, are we being asked "How many harmonics of that note can we hear?" produced by the saxophone playing its highest note. That is where we need to know whether it is behaving like a stopped pipe or an open pipe, and what effect end correction will have (if any).
 
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Hey, thanks for the replys I ended up figuring it out. 20000Hz/1568Hz and it gave me the right answer of 12 harmonics.
 

1. What is the purpose of calculating the number of harmonics in a problem?

The purpose of calculating the number of harmonics in a problem is to determine the fundamental frequency and all the related frequencies that make up a complex waveform. This can help in understanding the properties and behavior of the waveform and can also be used in designing and analyzing electronic circuits and systems.

2. How do you calculate the number of harmonics in a problem?

The number of harmonics can be calculated by dividing the fundamental frequency by the frequency difference between each harmonic. For example, if the fundamental frequency is 100 Hz and the frequency difference between each harmonic is 20 Hz, then the number of harmonics would be calculated as 100 Hz / 20 Hz = 5 harmonics.

3. What factors can affect the number of harmonics in a problem?

The number of harmonics in a problem can be affected by various factors such as the waveform shape, the frequency and amplitude of the fundamental frequency, and the properties of the medium through which the waveform is traveling. Additionally, any external factors such as interference or noise can also impact the number of harmonics in a problem.

4. Can the number of harmonics change over time?

Yes, the number of harmonics in a problem can change over time. This is because the properties of the medium or the external factors affecting the waveform may change, leading to a change in the number of harmonics present in the waveform. Additionally, if the fundamental frequency is variable, then the number of harmonics will also change accordingly.

5. What are some real-life applications of calculating the number of harmonics?

The calculation of the number of harmonics has various real-life applications, such as in audio engineering for designing sound systems and equalizers, in signal processing for filtering and analyzing complex waveforms, and in telecommunications for designing efficient communication systems. It is also used in music theory for understanding and composing complex musical pieces.

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