Calculating Planck's integral for finite range of wavelength

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total radiated power of a light bulb at a temperature of 2300 K, specifically within the wavelength range of 400 nm to 750 nm. The original poster is utilizing Planck's law of radiation and the Stefan-Boltzmann law, while also considering the emissivity of tungsten.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the visible power using integration of Planck's law, raising questions about the accuracy of their results and the potential for alternative methods, such as Wien's displacement law.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with the original poster correcting their calculations after identifying a mistake in their integration process. They have received suggestions for numerical integration methods and have confirmed a new result that aligns with another participant's findings. There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to estimate the visible power.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of emissivity values and the limitations of the Rayleigh-Jeans approximation in relation to the problem's context. The original poster expresses curiosity about alternative estimation methods.

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Homework Statement



Hi everybody! I am asked to calculate how much of the total radiated power of a light bulb at temperature ##T=2300##K is contained within ##400##nm and ##750##nm. I am also given the average emissivity of tungsten ##\epsilon_\text{ave}=0.288## and the emissivity within the range of wavelength ##\epsilon_\text{visible} \approx 0.45##.

Homework Equations



Stefan-Boltmann law: ##R=\epsilon(\lambda) \sigma T^4##
Planck's law of radiation: ##\frac{dR}{d\lambda} = \frac{2\pi h c^2}{\lambda^5} \frac{\epsilon(\lambda)}{\exp (\frac{hc}{\lambda k T}) -1}##

The Attempt at a Solution



First I calculated the total power per unit area ##R_\text{ave}## using Stefan-Boltzmann law:

##R_\text{ave} = \epsilon_\text{ave} \sigma T^4 = 457##kW##\cdot##m##^{-2}##

I spent some time trying to think of how to estimate the part of the power contained within the range of wavelength. The only solution I found so far is to use the Planck's law of radiation and integrate from ##\lambda_1 = 400##nm to ##\lambda_2 = 750##nm, but that isn't easy:

##dR_\text{visible} = \frac{2\pi h c^2}{\lambda^5} \frac{\epsilon_\text{visible}}{\exp (\frac{hc}{\lambda k T}) -1} d\lambda##
##\implies R_\text{visible} = \frac{2 \pi (kT)^4}{h^3 c^2} \epsilon_\text{visible} \int_{u_1}^{u_2} \frac{u^3}{\exp(u)-1} du##

Here I have used substitution with ##u=\frac{hc}{\lambda kT}## like one would normally do with the integral from ##0## to ##\infty##. Then with ##\frac{1}{\exp(u)-1} = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} e^{-nu}##:

##R_\text{visible} = \frac{2 \pi (kT)^4}{h^3 c^2} \epsilon_\text{visible} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \int_{u_1}^{u_2} u^3 e^{-nu} du##
##= \frac{2 \pi (kT)^4}{h^3 c^2} \epsilon_\text{visible} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \bigg( (\frac{u_1^3}{n} + \frac{u_1^2}{n^2} + \frac{6 u_1}{n^3} +\frac{6}{n^4}) e^{-n u_1} - (\frac{u_2^3}{n} + \frac{u_2^2}{n^2} + \frac{6 u_2}{n^3} + \frac{6}{n^4}) e^{-n u_2} \bigg)##

after performing integration by parts several times and inserting the limits of integration (pfiuu). I calculated the first 5 terms of the sum using Matlab, and this gives me the result

##R_\text{visible} = 0.011## W##\cdot##m##^{-2}##

which I find way too low to be true. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Some websites seem to confirm my calculation of the integral (for example here: http://www.spectralcalc.com/blackbody/inband_radiance.html), but maybe there is another way to calculate/approximate this calculation? I think I cannot use Rayleigh-Jeans approximation, since the peak of radiation is at intensity ##\lambda_\text{max} = 1.26 \mu##m, which means that the Rayleigh-Jeans approximation goes towards ##\infty## on the left of the peak, which is not the case with Planck.

Any advice here? I think I might have gone too far with the integral, when maybe there is another path to the solution.

Thank you very much in advance.Julien.
 
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Actually I made a typing mistake in Matlab. The result is now ##R_\text{visible}= -18.493##kW##\cdot##m##^{-2}## which is better than before, except for the minus sign. Maybe I inverted my limits of integration by mistake somewhere.
 
I found the mistake, it was in my first substitution: either I forgot a ##-## or to invert the limits of integration. The result is now ##R_\text{visible} = 18.493##kW##\cdot##m##^{-2}## which represents about ##4{\%}## of the total electromagnetic power. I think it is a reasonable figure, what do you guys think?

Still I would be curious to know if there is another method of estimating this value. Maybe something with Wien displacement law?

Thanks a lot in advance.Julien.
 
Since you're using Matlab, you could just have it evaluate the integral numerically. I got 21.9 kW/m2.

You could try estimating the integral in different ways, but I think you always have to integrate ##dR/d\lambda## in some way.
 
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@vela Thanks for your answer. Indeed I didn't know how to numerically integrate using Matlab until now. Thanks a lot, I got now the same result as you!Julien.
 

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