Calculating Point Defect Energies in Iron Using Molecular Dynamics Simulations

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energies of formation of interstitial dumbbells in iron using molecular dynamics simulations. Participants explore the implications of their findings related to energy calculations in the context of defects within a bcc iron lattice.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their setup of a molecular dynamics simulation of iron, aiming to calculate the energy of formation of interstitial dumbbells in various crystallographic directions.
  • Another participant explains that the ground-state configuration should have the lowest energy, and any defect configuration should have a higher energy, emphasizing the importance of comparing energy per atom rather than total energy.
  • Concerns are raised about the suitability of the chosen MD interatomic potential if the energy with the interstitial is not less negative than that of the perfect crystal.
  • A participant mentions their use of LAMMPS software and a potential from Mendelev & Ackland, indicating their intention to later study dislocation and defect movement in FeCr.
  • Advice is given regarding the need for a suitable Fe-Cr potential for future studies, highlighting the potential necessity of Density Functional Theory calculations to support the research.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and experience with molecular dynamics simulations and the associated potentials. There is no consensus on the implications of the energy calculations, and the discussion includes both supportive and cautionary perspectives regarding the chosen potentials.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of energy per atom in the context of defect formation and the potential limitations of the MD interatomic potentials being used. There is also mention of the need for further development of potentials for Fe-Cr alloys, which remains unresolved.

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Hi everyone... I hope this is the right place to post.

Anyway, I am a first year grad student working on molecular dynamics simulations (with very little background in materials, yay) of iron. To start out, I'm just trying to replicate some materials constants with a basic lattice to make sure things are going well...

I want to calculate the energies of formation of interstitial dumbbells in various directions, <100>, <110>, <111>... I set up a perfect iron lattice, 10x10x10, and find it's total energy (-8244.8702 eV). Then, I insert an interstitial in the lattice inside one of the cubes (it's bcc iron), near where it's position would be for a <110> dumbbell, and let it run for about 100 timesteps to relax into a stable position. This is all at 0 K, by the way, and an NVE constant simulation. Now looking at the total energy, I have (-8141.51). I had thought that the magnitude of the energy should be higher with an interstitial, but it's not... so does anyone have an explanation for that, or a formula to calculate energy of intersitial formation?

I thought it would be analogous to the energy of vacancy formation equation (which I calculated fine), but doesn't seem to be... thanks
 
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Basically, the ground-state configuration should have the lowest energy (ie. most negative). Any configuration with defects (eg. surface, interstitials, vacancy etc etc) should have higher energies (ie. not as negative as the ground state energy).

When performing MD simulations, one should always check for these things. This is because the MD potential-fitting process does not guarantee that all defects will have higher energy.

Now in your case, what you should be comparing is Energy per atom, since the system with the interstitial has one more atom than the perfect crystal.

The energy per atom of the system with the interstitial should be less negative than the energy per atom of the perfect crystal. Its not the magnitude. From the values you provided, this seems to be the case.

If the other way round happens, then the conclusion to be drawn is that the MD interatomic potential that you have chosen is not suitable to simulate interstitials.

Sounds interesting. What software are you using?
 
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Hi handsomecat-

Thanks for the help... I am new to the whole materials thing, but what you said definitely makes sense. I am using the LAMMPS software (http://lammps.sandia.gov/), freely available. Right now I'm just trying to get a good feel for the program by simulating iron using a potential from Mendelev & Ackland... eventually I will be coding in a potential for chromium and studying dislocation and defect movement in FeCr.
 
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Hi handsomecat-
eventually I will be coding in a potential for chromium and studying dislocation and defect movement in FeCr.

A few things you have to bear in mind. Kinda sharing my experience.

Right now you have a Fe-Fe potential, and you want to code in a Cr-Cr potential. But you still need the Fe-Cr potential ...

If there is no one else who has previously studied FeCr with MD, you will certainly have to develop a Fe-Cr MD potential that can simulate the Fe-Cr alloys that you want to. So pray hard that there is!

You may also have to do Density Functional Theory calculations to see how they can complement your research too.
 

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