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The problem involves calculating the electric potential from a nonconducting sphere with a given radius and charge distribution. The original poster attempts to find the potential at a specific radial distance from the center of the sphere, given that the potential at the center is defined as zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to differentiate between calculating electric potential and the change in potential (ΔV). There is a suggestion to consider the electric potential at infinity as zero and to perform integrals over different regions due to the changing electric field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the correct approach to take the integral from infinity to the specified distance, while others express confusion about the integration process and the application of different electric field equations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the integration limits and the nature of the electric field inside the sphere.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted misunderstanding regarding whether the problem is asking for ΔV or the potential V itself. Participants are also questioning the assumptions about the electric field's behavior inside the sphere and how to express the charge in relation to the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



A nonconducting sphere has radius R=2.31 cm and uniformly distributed charge q=+3.50 fC. Take the electric potential at the sphere's center to be V0=0. What is V at radial distance r = 1.45cm?


Homework Equations


E= \frac{kqr}{R^3}

\DeltaV=-\intE*ds

The Attempt at a Solution



E = \frac{k(3.5*10<sup>-15</sup>C)(.0145m)}{(.0231m)^3}
E = 3.70*10-2 V/m

\DeltaV=-\int3.70*10-2 V/m * ds
\DeltaV=-3.70*10-2 V/m * .0145 m

\DeltaV = -5.365*10-4

That's not right according to the book. I keep getting double the right answer when I do problems with electric potential and I can't figure out why.
 
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The problem asks you to find V not ΔV. Don't forget that the electric potential is zero at infinity. To do it right you must take the integral from infinity to 1.45 cm which means that you need to do two integrals because the electric field changes at r = 2.31 cm.
 
kuruman said:
The problem asks you to find V not ΔV. Don't forget that the electric potential is zero at infinity. To do it right you must take the integral from infinity to 1.45 cm which means that you need to do two integrals because the electric field changes at r = 2.31 cm.
That doesn't really make sense to me. Are you saying I should take the integral from infinity to .0231 m using \frac{kq}{r^2} for the electric field and then add the integral from .0231 m to .0145 m using \frac{kqr}{R^3}? That doesn't produce the right answer. However, using the integral from 0 to .0145 m of \frac{kqr}{R^3} works. The problem is that I'm still not really understanding why it works.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
That doesn't really make sense to me. Are you saying I should take the integral from infinity to .0231 m using \frac{kq}{r^2} for the electric field and then add the integral from .0231 m to .0145 m using \frac{kqr}{R^3}?

No, I think kuruman misread the question. The question does ask for delta-V, not for V.

That doesn't produce the right answer. However, using the integral from 0 to .0145 m of \frac{kqr}{R^3} works. The problem is that I'm still not really understanding why it works.

Electric field is kq/r^2, but q is not constant; the larger r is, the larger q is. Try expressing q in terms of R, r, and Q.
 
ideasrule said:
No, I think kuruman misread the question. The question does ask for delta-V, not for V.
Sorry, I misread the question. I agree with ideasrule. The electric field inside the sphere is not constant. If E = kQr/R3 inside, then that is the expression that you must put in the integral and integrate from zero to 2.31.
 

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