Calculating Power Requirements for a Ski Lift

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power requirements for a ski lift operating on a slope with specific parameters, including angle, length, speed, and the number of riders. The original poster attempts to estimate the power needed based on the mass of the riders and the height of the lift.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of speed from km/h to m/s and the calculation of height using trigonometric functions. There is a focus on the interpretation of the problem regarding whether the speed is constant or involves acceleration. The original poster questions the application of the work-energy principle and the accuracy of their calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting the time calculation and clarifying the interpretation of the problem. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the use of height in the power calculation, and suggestions have been made to check the calculations against force and velocity.

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Participants note that the problem's wording may have contributed to misunderstandings about the speed and the distance over which work is done. The original poster expresses appreciation for the assistance received, indicating a supportive learning environment.

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Homework Statement


A ski tow operates on a slope of angle 14.3 of length 350m . The rope moves at a speed of 12.1km/h and provides power for 49 riders at one time, with an average mass per rider of 75.0kg Estimate the power required. to operate the tow.

Homework Equations


W=mgh
P=W/T
x-x0=(V0x+Vx/2)t

The Attempt at a Solution


First I converted my speed to m/s
12.1km/h = 3.36m/s
Then I had to find the height of this ski lift. I figured the height would be the y component of the ski lift. 350Sin(14.3)=86.45
m = 75*49 = 3675
W=mgh
W=(3675)(9.8)(86.45)=3113496.75

Then I had to find the time.
x-x0=(V0x+Vx/2)t
350=(3.36/2)t
t = 208.3
P = 3113496.75 / 208.3 = 14947.18 (not the right answer)

Where did I go wrong?
 
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You assumed that the the rope and riders were accelerated from rest to 3.36 km/s. Instead, the problem is (somewhat unclearly) stating that the speed is constant at 3.36 km/s.
 
okay so if the speed is constant then acceleration is 0.

3.36=86.45/t
t=25.73
P=w/t
P=3113496.75/25.73=121006.48 not the right answer

i feel that I am particularly unsure about my W=mgh equation in this problem.
 
oops
 
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elsternj said:
okay so if the speed is constant then acceleration is 0.

3.36=86.45/t
t=25.73
P=w/t
P=3113496.75/25.73=121006.48 not the right answer

i feel that I am particularly unsure about my W=mgh equation in this problem.
Your Work done is OK, but your time is incorrect. The rope moves 350 m , not 86.45 meters.
Incidentally, if you can calculate the force in the rope, F, you can use P =Fv as a check on your answer.
 
ah and there's the right answer! of course it should have been 350! I don't know what made me use the height. Thank you so much for the help! I love this site. I see tutors at my college but it is currently our spring break and we have a test the week we get back! This has been just as helpful as my tutors! Much appreciation to you and everyone else.
 

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