Calculating Power Needed for a Ski Tow at a Resort: Work & Power Question

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The problem involves calculating the power required for a ski tow at a resort, considering the number of skiers, the height they are lifted, and energy losses due to friction. The subject area includes work and power in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of power based on work done against gravitational force and the impact of friction on total energy requirements. There are questions about the interpretation of the percentage of energy lost to friction and how it relates to the calculated power.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the energy loss due to friction and its effect on the total power needed. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made in the calculations and the implications of the percentages involved.

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There is a mention of the ski tow operating at a height of 500 meters and the average mass of skiers being 60 kg. The problem also notes that energy lost to friction is 60% of the total energy provided, which is a point of contention in the discussion.

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The ski tow at a ski resort takes 1000 people per hour to a height of 500 m. The average mass of the skiers using this tow is 60 kg. In the normal operation of the ski tow, the energy lost to fictional forces is 60%.

How much power is required to run the ski tow?

2. The attempt at a solution

Power = (work) / (time)

= (mgh) / (time)

= ( (60*1000) ( 9.81) (500) ) / (3600)

= 81750 Watts.

However, it will need an additional 60% of Power.

Thus: 81750 * 1.60 = 130,800 Watts.
 
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Speedking96 said:
However, it will need an additional 60% of Power.

Thus: 81750 * 1.60 = 130,800 Watts.
Careful. The energy lost to friction is 60% of the total provided. So what percentage of the total is 81750?
 
So, what's your question? Your attempt is quite sensible, only:
If I were to do this one, I would reason: the 82 kW is the 40% remaining, so the required power is 100/40*82 kW = 205 kW.
I don't think a ski resort at sea level is such a success, but perhaps they mean: to a height 500 meter above the resort...
 
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Doc Al said:
Careful. The energy lost to friction is 60% of the total provided. So what percentage of the total is 81750?

Isn't it just the 60% of the energy required to reach 500 meters?

I don't understand why the 81750 Watts are only 40% of the required power.
 
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Speedking96 said:
Isn't it just the 60% of the energy required to reach 500 meters?
No. Friction is 60% of the total energy; The energy needed to raise the lift is thus 40% of the total. You have to find the total.
 
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Doc Al said:
No. Friction is 60% of the total energy; The energy needed to raise the lift is thus 40% of the total. You have to find the total.


Ah. I see. Thank you.
 

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