Calculating Rotational Speed on a Giant Wheel

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The problem involves calculating the rotational speed of a giant wheel with a diameter of 40 meters, focusing on the forces acting on a man standing on a platform at the top of the wheel. The question presents multiple-choice answers for the speed at which the man moves.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between normal force and gravitational force, with some attempting to derive the speed using the equation of motion. There are questions about the correct use of diameter versus radius in calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the radius of the wheel. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the problem setup.

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There is confusion regarding the use of the diameter instead of the radius in calculations, as well as the implications of rounding in the results. Participants are also discussing the gravitational constant used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A giant wheel, 40m in diameter, is fitted with a cage and platform on which a man can stand.
The wheel rotates at such a speed that when the cage is at X (as shown) the force exerted by
the man on the platform is equal to his weight. The speed of the man is:
X is located at the top of the vertical wheel.
A. 14m/s
B. 20m/s
C. 28m/s
D. 80m/s
E. 120m/s

Homework Equations


Fn + Fg = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Well it states the normal force is mg. So I got 2mg = m(v^2/r)
which I got that v = 28 m/s.
But the answer key says it's b.
 
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Ishida52134 said:

Homework Statement


A giant wheel, 40m in diameter, is fitted with a cage and platform on which a man can stand.
The wheel rotates at such a speed that when the cage is at X (as shown) the force exerted by
the man on the platform is equal to his weight. The speed of the man is:
X is located at the top of the vertical wheel.
A. 14m/s
B. 20m/s
C. 28m/s
D. 80m/s
E. 120m/s

Homework Equations


Fn + Fg = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Well it states the normal force is mg. So I got 2mg = m(v^2/r)
which I got that v = 28 m/s.
But the answer key says it's b.

your method is correct I believe you just made a computational error.
 
I see no image.
 
omiver4 said:
your method is correct I believe you just made a computational error.

it's 2mg = mv^2/r
so v = sqrt (2gr) which is sqrt(784) = 28.

I don't know how to put an image up.
Basically it's just a vertical circle and point X is at the top of it.
 
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any ideas
 
It appears to me that you are using the diameter in your calculation rather than the radius.

2mg = m*v^2/r
v = sqrt(2gr)
v = sqrt(2*(9.8m/s^2)*20m)
v = sqrt(392) = 19.798 which rounds up to 20 m/s

If you do the same math with r = 40 you get 28 m/s. However, the question states that the diameter is 40, so the radius must be 20.
 
Ishida52134 said:
any ideas

Take g = 10 m/s^2. Then 2gr = ? ( 2r = diameter)
 
Ishida52134 said:
it's 2mg = mv^2/r
so v = sqrt (2gr) which is sqrt(784) = 28.

I don't know how to put an image up.
Basically it's just a vertical circle and point X is at the top of it.

the reason you keep getting sqrt(784) is because you are using 40m for radius when you should be using 20m
 
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ohhhh lol thanks.
 

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