Calculating Second Moment of Area about X and Y Axes - Example Problem

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The problem involves calculating the second moment of area for a curve defined by the equation y² = x, bounded by the x-axis from the origin to x = 4 inches. The original poster is tasked with finding this moment with respect to both the x-axis and y-axis.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply integration to find the second moment of area, expressing their calculations and questioning their correctness. Other participants suggest considering the limits of integration and whether to include negative values of y, prompting a discussion about the area being analyzed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's approach, providing feedback on the integration limits and the interpretation of the area under the curve. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the boundaries of the area being considered, particularly regarding the inclusion of negative values of y.

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The original poster indicates that they are only considering the area in the first quadrant, which may influence the limits of integration and the overall approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Ok, I have the normal Y(up) and x(to the right) axis. I've got the curve(starting at orgin) y^2=x. On the x axis, it goes to x =4 inches. So, that is the area I'm looking at(shaded).

Question states this:

Find the second moment of the shaded area with respect to
a) x - axis
b) y - axis

I'm not exactly sure how to do this...but I tried.

Oh, and I found the top of the curve, is at y=2.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution




Ix = int(y^2 * dA)

= int(from 0 to 2)(y^2 *(4-y^2) dy = 4.27in^4

Is this portion correct? I'm not sure

Thanks,
Brad
 
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An integral dA is an integral over an area. So you will get a double integral over dx and dy. Look up an example.
 
I have looked at examples...I'm fairly confident this is how they did it.

Where do you see that I went wrong? I think my equations are correct...
 
Yes, your basic equations are good. Sorry. I didn't realize you'd already done the x integration. But draw the figure and think about your limits of integration.
 
I have the picture drawn, on my paper here.

I was thinking, that due to integrating in terms of y, I should integrate from zero to the height of the curve.

So, if x=4, then y = sqrt(4) = 2. This is why zero to 2 seemed logical to me.
 
Why not -2 to +2 in y? Does it say only y>=0? If you've included a picture, I can't see it.
 
no...i didn't include a pic...I said, in the first post(confusing, I know)...that we are starting at (0,0)...like the axis is at the beginning of this curve(coming out of orgin)...I can post a pic, if you'd like...with paint.
 
Don't include a pic. It's probably not necessary. But can y be negative? I know x can't.
 
Nope...both start at 0,0...then goes out to 4 inches on the x axis...with that curve(y^2=x)...and need to find how tall it is(on the y-axis).
 
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The curve y^2=x has both of the points (4,2) and (4,-2) on it. So the area enclosed between x=4 and x=0 has regions both above and below the x-axis. I'm asking if you are being specifically asked to not include the region below. If so then your answer is already correct.
 
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ok...Yes, I've only got a picture of quadrant 1 Guess that is how I should have put it, all along...

Ok...that is great...thank you!
 

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