Calculating Soccer Ball's Speed at Goalie's Catch

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The problem involves a soccer player kicking a ball towards a goal, requiring the calculation of the ball's speed when caught by the goalie. The scenario includes initial speed, angle of projection, and distance to the goal, situated in the context of projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the decomposition of the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components and the use of kinematic equations to find the time of flight and final velocities. Questions arise regarding the application of Pythagorean theorem to combine these components.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the x and y components of velocity, and how to calculate the resultant speed of the ball. Some participants express uncertainty about specific steps in the process.

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Participants note challenges with word problems and the need for clarity in applying kinematic principles. There is an acknowledgment of the lack of explicit consensus on the final approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A soccer player kicks the ball toward a goal that is 16.8 m in front of him. The ball leaves his foot at a speed of 16.0 m/s and an angle of 28.0 degrees above the ground. Find the speed of the ball when the goalie catches it in front of the net.


Homework Equations


x = vt
x = volt+(1/2)at2
Vf2=Vo2+ax

The Attempt at a Solution


Vx = (cos 28)(16.0) = 14.1 m/s
Vy = (sin 28) (16.0) = 7.5 m/s

Horizontal
x = 16.8 m
V = 14.1 m/s

Vertical
a = -9.8 m/s2
Vyo = 0 m/s
(V = 7.5 m/s?)

I'm stuck as to where I should go from there or even if I started out correctly.
If you can assist me, I would be very grateful. Thank you!
 
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Yes, you have started well. First you want to find how long the ball is in the air for.
There is no acceleration in the x plane so the x speed will remain the same.
So you can find the time using only the x parameters.

However the final speed of the ball will depend on x and y velocities.
You will now have:

t
ay
vyinitial

use v_{final} = v_{initial} + at

solve for v final y component.
Then use pythagoras to find total speed (combining x and y components).
 
Thank you for replying.

I'm still a bit puzzled though, but if I understood correctly, this is what I did:

x = vt
(16.8 m) = (14.1 m/s)t
t=16.8 m/14.1
t= 1.2 s

Vf2 = Vo + at
Vf = (7.5 m/s) + (-9.8 m/s2)(1.2 s)
Vf = -4.3 m/s

I don't understand what to use pythagoreas for though.

Please bear with me. I'm not very good at word problems :(
 
Well now you have y velocity and the x velocity so you want to combine them to total velocity.

\sqrt{-4.3^2 + 14.1^2}

it makes a right angled triangle when you think about it, because x and y are perpendicular to each other, so the line that joins them (total velocity) is the hypotenuse.
 
Oh ok, yeah it is the hypotenuse.

Thank you for your help!
 

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