Calculating Speed of Sound: 480 Hz & 33.34 cm

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of sound using frequency and wavelength, specifically with a frequency of 480 Hz and a measured wavelength of 33.34 cm in a tube experiment. Participants explore the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and the speed of sound, as well as resonance in a closed tube setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the formula for calculating speed of sound and the relationship between frequency and period. Questions arise about calculating theoretical resonance wavelengths for a tube closed at one end and open at the other, as well as how to compare experimental results with theoretical predictions.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify calculations and explore resonance conditions in a tube. Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the calculations, while others seek further clarification and feedback on their reasoning and results. There is an ongoing exploration of the differences between calculated and observed wavelengths.

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Participants mention the need to convert units for consistency in calculations and the specific conditions of the experimental setup, including the tube's length and its closed/open ends affecting resonance.

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Hello, I'm new here and I'm not sure wether this is the correct forum or not, ohwell here it goes.
I'm wondering how to calculate the speed of sound by using the formula:
Lamba = v * T
The frequency was 480 Hz and the distance was 33.34 cm.

This was done in a tube with sand so you could distinguish the soundwaves in the sand thus measuring the distance of one wave length.
Any help would be appreciated!
 
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T here means the period, which is one over the frequency:
[tex]T=\frac{1}{f}[/tex]
[tex]f=\frac{1}{T}[/tex]
So you can calculate the period from the frequency. You can solve for "v" in the equation you gave and use the values of T and [itex]\lambda[/itex] to get a number. Just remember that your [itex]\lambda[/itex] is in centimeters so you should convert if you want a speed in m/s.
 
So basically the speed is 0,3334 * 480 = 160.03 m/s ??
Sorry, but I'm a bit slow and this isn't my primary language either.

Another question, what if I wish to calculate the theoretical resonance wave length for the tube, (75 centimeters of lenght, closed in one end, open in the other end).
 
Alec said:
So basically the speed is 0,3334 * 480 = 160.03 m/s ??
Right.
Alec said:
Another question, what if I wish to calculate the theoretical resonance wave length for the tube, (75 centimeters of lenght, closed in one end, open in the other end).
Since it is closed on one end, there will be a node at that end (a point of zero amplitude). Sice it is open at the other, there will be a maximum there. So there will be resonence when the lenth of the tube is 1/2[itex]\lambda[/itex], 3/2[itex]\lambda[/itex], 5/2[itex]\lambda[/itex]...
 
Thank you for your answers so far, but how do I calculate the resonance? (if that's possible)
 
There will be resonence when the length of the tube is (1/2)[itex]\lambda[/itex], (3/2)[itex]\lambda[/itex]... and so on. So the longest wavelength at which there will be resonence is when
[tex]\frac{1}{2}\lambda=L[/tex]
(L is the length of the tube). So you just have to solve for [itex]\lambda[/itex].
 
Alright
So I calculated it like this: (meters)
L1 = 1/2 * 1.5
L2 = 3/2 * 0.5
L3 = 5/2 * 0.3
And it checks out.
Any comments?
I'm also supposed to compare this wave length to the ones I noticed during my experiment, the biggest one I got was 0.3334 meters and the smallest one was 0.07 meters, what does this say?
So here it would be the wave length of 1.5 meters as the biggest and 0.3 meters as the smallest. Why is it so much bigger than the wave length that I got?
 
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Alec said:
So basically the speed is 0,3334 * 480 = 160.03 m/s ??
Sorry, but I'm a bit slow and this isn't my primary language either.

remember that f=1/T when doing this calculation
 
BananaMan said:
remember that f=1/T when doing this calculation
He did. He moved it over to the other side.
 
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ooops sorry, its late and I am tired, should probably get myself off to bed, just one more crack at my optics and i will i think
 
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It's okay, those calculations are fine now, although I'd appreciate some feedback on my previous post!
 
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